If banning guns works.....

[gwb72tii]

i also believe there is data that shows specific areas within the USA that have the highest gun ownership percentages also have the lowest crime rates

[immajackuup]

Can't wait to get myself a glock 27,having chl without a gun is useless.

[priapism]

Countries with lower firearm homicide rates than us:
Uruguay
Ivory Coast
Poland
Bulgaria
Slovakia
Azerbaijan
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.
.

I would not trust the reporting from most of those countries. Ivory Coast is in the middle of a civil war IIRC.

[KenC]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^


And now you are starting to stumble down the right path

I think the gun violence charts are a little misleading. I'd like to see charts that show violent crimes with any weapon. I think the chart would change drastically.

I'm not convinced our society is any more (or less) violent than others. If you're going to commit a violent crime/murder, why choose a knife when you can get a gun just as easily?

[z31maniac]

I think the gun violence charts are a little misleading. I'd like to see charts that show violent crimes with any weapon. I think the chart would change drastically.

I'm not convinced our society is any more (or less) violent than others. If you're going to commit a violent crime/murder, why choose a knife when you can get a gun just as easily?

priapism, yes the Ivory Coase is in the middle of turmoil.

And basically all the other countries are holdovers of military regimes where gun ownership was not allowed.

Doesn't seem like a fair comparison.

[slammin.e28]

Problem is, people don't need guns to commit crimes/kill people. Come on people.

I like conceal carry because they make criminals think, "Does this guy have a gun?" Do I wanna risk my life trying to rob/assault this guy?" Ban guns, and that's done. Law abiding citizens will have little to no defense, as the criminal element will know, "Hey, this guy doesn't have a gun, I think I'll assault/rob him."

Those charts show only firearm crimes. That's going to be kinda biased.

[dirtysix]

Well since the title of this topic is "If banning guns works..." then I thought them quite appropriate.

For the record I think your right, but that wasn't what the thread was about.

[ReallyDirtyThirty]

Countries with lower firearm homicide rates than us:
Uruguay
Ivory Coast
Poland
Bulgaria
Slovakia
Azerbaijan

I would just shoot myself if I had to live in any of those places...

[slammin.e28]

Well since the title of this topic is "If banning guns works..." then I thought them quite appropriate.

For the record I think your right, but that wasn't what the thread was about.

True. But guns do factor into a larger part of crime/crime prevention. I see where you're coming from. :up:

[redhatpat]

I don't normally post in these threads because xenophobia gets in the way of the facts, but I found this editorial cartoon pretty much to the point.

[Need4Speed1299]

Safe people having guns around me makes me feel more safe.

[dirtysix]

True. But guns do factor into a larger part of crime/crime prevention. I see where you're coming from. :up:

Further than that, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon here (note weapon) yet our homicide rate is none to flash.

Even so, I still dont like the idea that randoms in the street might be carrying a gun.

[slammin.e28]

Further than that, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon here (note weapon) yet our homicide rate is none to flash.

Even so, I still dont like the idea that randoms in the street might be carrying a gun.

The thing I don't like about that is the only people that will be carrying a gun ARE the criminals. Police are always too far away when any crime happens, much less a gun crime.

[dirtysix]

The thing I don't like about that is the only people that will be carrying a gun ARE the criminals. Police are always too far away when any crime happens, much less a gun crime.

I think this is mostly a cultural difference between you and me.

Thing is, I dont trust people to operate guns properly. Retards cant drive properly let alone operate guns properly in populated ares.

[priapism]

I think this is mostly a cultural difference between you and me.

Thing is, I dont trust people to operate guns properly. Retards cant drive properly let alone operate guns properly in populated ares.

Thing that most people in other countries don't understand is the guns here that are registered are rarely used in crimes. People that go through licensing requirements don't do so so that they can shoot up a rival dealer. It's the back lot sales that end up being used in crimes, and those are already illegal.