If banning guns works.....

[Farbin Kaiber]

I have a fire extinguisher in my car, in my van, one in each room, two in garage, two types under sink, so I think your angle won't work with me.


Guess what, I've only used one once. And it was not mine, it was in the workplace.

[z31maniac]

Come on Buddy, don't you think he could have talked his way out of that situation with the liberal reasoning he gained in College as opposed to joining the Military? Really, could he had a different outcome had he had a CCW?

They stole his pistol as well.

You can't really pull your piece when three guys already have theirs aimed at you.


My point was to illustrate that nasty situations happen everywhere, not just in the "bad parts" of town.

[KenC]

Isn't it brandishing a weapon in public if you draw and don't shoot? Serious question bc I don't know the law.

And yes, I've shot a gun before... twice lol.

[Vedubin01]

Isn't it brandishing a weapon in public if you draw and don't shoot? Serious question bc I don't know the law.

And yes, I've shot a gun before... twice lol.

Yes and against the law... its not the wild west! :)


The relevent section of WA state law would be:


RCW 9.41.270 (1)

It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

Note the key words... "INTENT" and "WARRANTS Alarm"

Just because someone is alarmed does not mean that one has broken the law. That alarm must be warranted.

[KenC]

Yes and against the law... its not the wild west! :)


The relevent section of WA state law would be:


RCW 9.41.270 (1)

It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

Note the key words... "INTENT" and "WARRANTS Alarm"

Just because someone is alarmed does not mean that one has broken the law. That alarm must be warranted.

Hey, even the Constitution is open to interpretation, right? ;)

[Vedubin01]

Hey, even the Constitution is open to interpretation, right? ;)

hahahaha NO! :)

[KenC]

Yes and against the law... its not the wild west! :)


The relevent section of WA state law would be:


RCW 9.41.270 (1)

It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

Note the key words... "INTENT" and "WARRANTS Alarm"

Just because someone is alarmed does not mean that one has broken the law. That alarm must be warranted.

hahahaha NO! :)

Then what are those nine people in robes in Washington getting paid for? Haha

The authors of the Constitution were smart enough not to leave it all black & white... leave the hair-splitting to the lawyers.

[slammin.e28]

Isn't it brandishing a weapon in public if you draw and don't shoot? Serious question bc I don't know the law.

And yes, I've shot a gun before... twice lol.

In VA, at least locally, we had a huge lawsuit over 3 guys who wore open carry revolvers to a restaurant. They were life members of the NRA, as am I. They got the NRA involved and won. Celebration took place at the same restaurant, open carry and all.

I feel for you guys in the blue states. I really do.

People just need to calm down about guns. I mean really. We come in contact with so many more things that can kill us every day other than guns. :roll:

[KenC]

You can open carry in Oregon. You just need a license to conceal it.

I have no issues with concealed carry. Those that are able to obtain the license are law-abiding citizens and have passed a gun-safety/training course. However, the fact that any Joe Schmo is able to open carry is a little worrisome. I've been to a range twice, but still wouldn't trust myself to carry a gun as both times I've had to have assistance in preparing it to fire.

[joshh]

The issue with the Constitution is more black and white than most think. It fits liberals not to know the history of why each amendment of the Constitution was written. And thus you get interpretation.

[Vedubin01]

You can open carry in Oregon. You just need a license to conceal it.

I have no issues with concealed carry. Those that are able to obtain the license are law-abiding citizens and have passed a gun-safety/training course. However, the fact that any Joe Schmo is able to open carry is a little worrisome. I've been to a range twice, but still wouldn't trust myself to carry a gun as both times I've had to have assistance in preparing it to fire.

I agree, most people are not up to par to carry. I shoot weekly and is my number 1 hobby. I also make my own ammunition. Every time I go to a public range I just nod my head in disbelief that there are some really dumb ass people that own guns. The problem is the US has gotten away from the outdoors in general and now "city" folk think its cool to now own something they have little or no training on. But banning such weapons goes against the Constitution. I just hope Darwin filters out the retards.

Ken if you ever make it to South Florida, Id gladly take you out to a private range and let you experience NFA firearms. Teach you gun safety, and build your confidence in CCW.

[bdracing]

Did anybody point out yet that the most important reason to have a right to bear arms is so you can fight an unjust government? I know many of you haven't studied history but a lot of the people who came here were escaping an oppressive monarch in Europe. The founders didn't write the 2nd Amendment thinking about the dude at 7-11. They were giving the people the power to keep their elected officials in check:)

[Vedubin01]

Did anybody point out yet that the most important reason to have a right to bear arms is so you can fight an unjust government? I know many of you haven't studied history but a lot of the people who came here were escaping an oppressive monarch in Europe. The founders didn't write the 2nd Amendment thinking about the dude at 7-11. They were giving the people the power to keep their elected officials in check:)

Already covered a few pages ago. :)

[joshh]

Did anybody point out yet that the most important reason to have a right to bear arms is so you can fight an unjust government? I know many of you haven't studied history but a lot of the people who came here were escaping an oppressive monarch in Europe. The founders didn't write the 2nd Amendment thinking about the dude at 7-11. They were giving the people the power to keep their elected officials in check:)

Yes and I agree with that but because people disbelieve there are such things as "conspiracies", we get things like the Third Reich. Violence is a bad word remember.
Government covers it's eyes when reading parts of the Constitution and so do many Americans.

[z31maniac]

Did anybody point out yet that the most important reason to have a right to bear arms is so you can fight an unjust government? I know many of you haven't studied history but a lot of the people who came here were escaping an oppressive monarch in Europe. The founders didn't write the 2nd Amendment thinking about the dude at 7-11. They were giving the people the power to keep their elected officials in check:)

It's become painfully obvious that you like to repeat the obvious.
You should read more and post less.

Or you're just a really weak troll.