Sales of the GM Volt.

[Wiglaf]

wow you are just itching to call this car a failure! They are sold out, the 100 "unsold" cars are because dealers have been begging since day one to have some show models. The only reason for low numbers is low production, they are ramping up production for next year.

[e30e]

As much as I hate GM cars, I would rather have this than the leaf.

[Wiglaf]

I drove a Cruze, it was a complete turd. A polished turd, but still could not get out of it's own way. And each gear took like 2 seconds to shift, makes for a lot of pre-planning to redline it without overshooting.

[joshh]

Who the hell would use New American or Cars.com as a source?

There are four available at two dealers and that is reason enough to assume that the 100 unclaimed is a lie?

You really ought to re-evaluate what garbage you read and take in as 'fact'.


Volt sales were so low in July because Hamtramck was shut down to re-vamp to have a higher capacity before they release to more states. With only SEVEN markets currently... it shouldn't be a surprise that four are available within 75 miles of one 'reporter' or crazed blogger who likes to make assumptions and idiots who read and believe them.

Says the guy who really thought the US economy was on it's way back already.
The car isn't selling whether you like it or not. And it really isn't about supply as it is cost. It's just the way it is.
Stopped by the closest Chevy dealer today because I saw they had a POS (for the price) Volt there a while back. Got to talking to two sales reps. the first admitted there has been a lot of interest in the Volt but very few people who want to buy it. The Volt they had took them a month and a half to sell. That's not exactly flying out the door.

wow you are just itching to call this car a failure! They are sold out, the 100 "unsold" cars are because dealers have been begging since day one to have some show models. The only reason for low numbers is low production, they are ramping up production for next year.

Nope not at all. But I know it's going to overall fail. Between the economy and the price it's just not going to be a big seller.

I drove a Cruze, it was a complete turd. A polished turd, but still could not get out of it's own way. And each gear took like 2 seconds to shift, makes for a lot of pre-planning to redline it without overshooting.

Funny you mention that. One of the sales guys I talked to today was going on about the Cruze and how great of a car it is. Of course I take car salesman words with a grain of sand. I'm sure if the guy got fired tomorrow he'd say the same thing as you. Anyways the Cruze apparently has a double over drive. It was geared for fuel economy.

[rwh11385]

Says the guy who really thought the US economy was on it's way back already.
The car isn't selling whether you like it or not. And it really isn't about supply as it is cost. It's just the way it is.
Stopped by the closest Chevy dealer today because I saw they had a POS (for the price) Volt there a while back. Got to talking to two sales reps. the first admitted there has been a lot of interest in the Volt but very few people who want to buy it. The Volt they had took them a month and a half to sell. That's not exactly flying out the door.

Manufacturing growth is still positive. There are still more new net jobs. Top job cuts are government (good).

Actually, hard to sell cars when no new ones were going to be rolling out the door (nationwide). Wait and see. You don't have a clue (per usual) and getting your facts from blogger sources just as whacked in the head as you. Oregon just now is supposedly to being kicked off / launching Volt deliveries.

It's nothing more than opinion if your proof is "It's just the way it is" and the opinion of some sales guys who would rather sell you a car on their lot right now. (The Cruze - which is good for a compact car and with a manual decent for getting around)

But I know it's going to overall fail.

You just "know", so that's like good as fact right?

[mrsleeve]

^
And yet all the worlds markets tanked 3-5% today and the dow is down like 1500 in the last 3 days. Correction..................or 1st signs of something more ominous ??????????????????????


I smell something funky going on, as gold and silver are way down today and Oil and gas are down with brent crude down over 7 bucks as well and NG is below 4 bucks and falling. With all the markets selling off and commodities falling. And severe manipulation of the silver market last month (someone dumped 250m paper oz of silver in less than a minuet on the 18th IIRC) something big and prolly bad is afoot.

Something really bad is gonna happen really soon, or the shysters in control of the all the investment capital are up too no good again. Either way nothing good can come from any of this for those of us that have to work for a living.

[Wiglaf]

That's why I have no stocks.

[joshh]

That's why I have no stocks.

Same here but it doesn't mean it wont effect us like it did for so many Americans in the 30's. I see the stock market as gambling. And I don't like how easy it is to cheat the stock market "system". However I support the basic idea. I just wish we'd get rid of people betting against our own economy.

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And yet all the worlds markets tanked 3-5% today and the dow is down like 1500 in the last 3 days. Correction..................or 1st signs of something more ominous ??????????????????????


I smell something funky going on, as gold and silver are way down today and Oil and gas are down with brent crude down over 7 bucks as well and NG is below 4 bucks and falling. With all the markets selling off and commodities falling. And severe manipulation of the silver market last month (someone dumped 250m paper oz of silver in less than a minuet on the 18th IIRC) something big and prolly bad is afoot.

Something really bad is gonna happen really soon, or the shysters in control of the all the investment capital are up too no good again. Either way nothing good can come from any of this for those of us that have to work for a living.

Once again you're on it. Americans just hate reality. Even I at one point never thought this country would ever have another depression....and here we are nearing one and people don't want to face the fact it could still happen.

[rwh11385]

joshh, didn't you even admit you had no education about economics?

Americans do hate reality - reality that it is NOT a law that the GDP has to growth 5% every year, year after year... That we had decades of spending on credit and foundations on overconsumption. And people like you expect it all to instantly spring back to where we were. It's not going to, but just because it didn't get us back to where we were a few years ago, and is slowly rebuilding - it doesn't mean put on your tinfoil hat and hide your gold bars in a mattress along with your beans and lead.

People who short stocks help keep it accurate. You want to only allow people to bet everything always going up? Where did that get us?? What if oil could not be bet on it ever going down? Or companies with outdated practices or poor business models?

Don't invest if you don't want. I'll keep investing that you are a moron.

[joshh]

joshh, didn't you even admit you had no education about economics?

Americans do hate reality - reality that it is NOT a law that the GDP has to growth 5% every year, year after year... That we had decades of spending on credit and foundations on overconsumption. And people like you expect it all to instantly spring back to where we were. It's not going to, but just because it didn't get us back to where we were a few years ago, and is slowly rebuilding - it doesn't mean put on your tinfoil hat and hide your gold bars in a mattress along with your beans and lead.

People who short stocks help keep it accurate. You want to only allow people to bet everything always going up? Where did that get us?? What if oil could not be bet on it ever going down? Or companies with outdated practices or poor business models?

Don't invest if you don't want. I'll keep investing that you are a moron.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/05/news/economy/downgrade_rumors/

Want to keep repeating your nonsense.

[rwh11385]

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/05/news...ngrade_rumors/

Want to keep repeating your nonsense.

Want to think for yourself? Or wait - you are incapable.


a) Do you really know what little difference that makes? Oh shit - we as unreliable when it comes to pay back our debts as GE or Berkshire Hathaway.
b) What were you expecting with a big deficit, continually growing mandatory expenses, and moronic leadership in Washington? Even if we had a killer, record economic year - we would still have fundamental issues with SS/Medicare/Medicaid increasing in costs.
c) Think about it as this - regardless of your income (GDP), if your spending is out of whack... you are going to go into deeper debt and owe more. Congress having shit for brains doesn't mean necessarily the economy sucks.

Yeah, it's not cool and a blow to our pride - but then again, who didn't see it coming? And Moody's still has it at the top rating. Maybe it will be a kick-in-the-pants for the government to actually tighten its belt and get back (at least closer) to black.

I guess you passed over this update: http://www.usatoday.com/money/econom...ployment_n.htm

The report "should lessen fears that the recovery is truly faltering," said Jim O'Sullivan, chief economist at MF Global.

Businesses added 154,000 jobs across many industries. Governments cut 37,000 jobs last month.

In Friday's report, the government revised the previous two months' hiring totals to show job growth wasn't as weak as first estimated.

The economy added 53,000 in May, up from an earlier estimate of 25,000, and 46,000 in June, up from 18,000. June's total was still the weakest in nine months.

Hiring in July was broad-based. Manufacturers added 24,000 jobs, as auto companies laid off fewer workers than usual. Retailers hired a net 26,000 employees. Employment in health care grew 31,000. Hotels and restaurants added 17,000.

Workers did see some pay gains last month. Average hourly wages rose 10 cents to $23.13.

[Wiglaf]

lol @ this chart.
what the hell is supposed to happen in october that suddendly makes everything rosy?

[rwh11385]

lol @ this chart.
what the hell is supposed to happen in october that suddendly makes everything rosy?

what are you talking about? That was Oct '10. We've had positive net job growth every month since then. All this talk of "jobless" recovery is just people complaining, like joshh, that the rate isn't fast enough.

[mrsleeve]

^

What happens when all the Obama money runs out ????

[freeride53]

to the OP, i've actually seen a bunch of Volts recently. Like lots.