So again, your argument is completely based on history. You think that 2012 is the same as 1986?
Some things have changed in 26 years, even if you might not have cognitive flexibility to realize it.
One GIANT change is Detriot's ability to increase dramatically its labor hours per vehicle, which drops labor costs obviously. This was done by adopting modern practices, such as the flexible manufacturing systems you ignorantly made fun of.
This is still 5 years old: http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/05/...by-a-hair.html
^See, how hard is it to find a value for that disadvantage, even if it is outdated?
And they've worked to make cars that people want and cut incentives.
And Detroit is working to eliminate that whole pension liability - in a pretty savvy way.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/14/g...uyouts-to-uaw/
And the white collars are a greater labor cost it seems:
There's their numbers, but can't find Toyota's.
Some things have changed in 26 years, even if you might not have cognitive flexibility to realize it.
One GIANT change is Detriot's ability to increase dramatically its labor hours per vehicle, which drops labor costs obviously. This was done by adopting modern practices, such as the flexible manufacturing systems you ignorantly made fun of.
This is still 5 years old: http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/05/...by-a-hair.html
^See, how hard is it to find a value for that disadvantage, even if it is outdated?
And they've worked to make cars that people want and cut incentives.
And Detroit is working to eliminate that whole pension liability - in a pretty savvy way.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/14/g...uyouts-to-uaw/
And the white collars are a greater labor cost it seems:
There's their numbers, but can't find Toyota's.
No I think GM 2012 is pretty much the same as GM 2008. With the exception they got a shit ton of tax payer money to transform their operation.
I'm pretty sure you meant decrease the hours. No, I didn't made fun of flexible manufacturing in general. I made fun of the fact the Volt specifically had to be slowed in production in place of other vehicles because they can't sell the car. Get your shit straight on that kiddo.
Yeah they cut incentives because they have money in the bank from the bailout. And because their two biggest competitors were in serious trouble when GM needed it the most (due to weather). They got lucky on Japans misfortune.
Yeah so while they try to get out from underneath that pension liability they continue to create more of it by having the UAW doing their work...same old same old. GM 2008.
Yep, GM is selling cars at higher transaction prices...for now. The Volt...why did they sell 2800 of them last month?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmul...n-chevy-volts/
To spur Volt sales, GM has been promoting a lease deal of $279 a month and $2,419 due at signing on a two-year, 24,000-mile lease. “The whole idea is we’re creating a market; there is no plug-in market,” said GM spokesman Jim Cain.
But my neighbors apparently stumbled into an even better deal on their Volt. It seems GM is offering dealers extra bonus cash (which they can pass on to Volt buyers) if they exceed their initial Volt sales goals. Dealers who hit their target get an extra $500 payout. If they sell three times their target they get $2,500. Only about 400 of GM’s 2,600 participating Chevrolet dealers (15%) have beaten their Volt sales objectives and are receiving the extra bonus. Just 2.5% sold enough Volts to qualify for the top $2,500 bonus.
But my neighbors apparently stumbled into an even better deal on their Volt. It seems GM is offering dealers extra bonus cash (which they can pass on to Volt buyers) if they exceed their initial Volt sales goals. Dealers who hit their target get an extra $500 payout. If they sell three times their target they get $2,500. Only about 400 of GM’s 2,600 participating Chevrolet dealers (15%) have beaten their Volt sales objectives and are receiving the extra bonus. Just 2.5% sold enough Volts to qualify for the top $2,500 bonus.
If you’ve recently purchased a 2012 Chevy Volt in California with the low emissions package for California, as a rule of thumb these are Volts that were Built and Sold after March 1, 2012. Then are you eligible for $1500 in purchase rebates – this is not a tax rebate, but rather a $1500 check that California will write you for buying a Volt. And you are eligible for a sticker that will allow you to access any of California’s Carpool lanes (HOV Lanes) during commute hours with only 1 person in the vehicle. A great bonus if you commute!
And no those aren't the numbers we were referring to. Maybe a sample. But you wont find the exact numbers because they wont release them. Plus what you posted is an increase not a savings. But it was an interesting red herring considering the pensions are the bigger issue.
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