Chump for President

[BraveUlysses]

No hyperbole. Fact checkable from the horses mouth and the documents that are trying to be passed themselves. Listen to some CFR videos with people just talking about this and what Hillary, Bill, Brzezinski, Kissinger said and continue to say. None of this is secret and available for anyone that has 5 minutes. That's what's frustrating; less pokemon go (not you) for some people and more of that type of stuff. It's the world we live in and perhaps the truth hurts too much for some to want to accept it. If you think we aren't living in some form of authoritarianism, a system she supports, then you're just lying to yourself. Constant war (in the name of who knows anymore) waged by an empire, authoritarian measures for our "protection"(Patriot Act), a bill of privileges not rights (can be taken away from us at any time, remember the internment camps, which can be called now during a time of peace, and the fact that now the 4th amendment is not a thing anymore and we have free speech zones??), in our face government corruption (take your pick), we're experimented on without our knowledge, different tier justice system (well, that should be an obvious one), rogue dark operations with dark money, total authoritarian power for a single person (presidents have been signing us in state of emergencies which give them to power to do ANYTHING to us) and having an illusion of choice (two party system that barely have any real differences). This is the status quo. War is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength. If you can't see that then you're in denial.

Where's your evidence that hillary wants to use nuclear weapons in any capacity? trump has literally been quoted asking "why cant we use nukes on ISIS?"

What are CFR videos?

I asked this last week and I dont think you answered me: what military action can hillary do as president that couldn't be mitigated, stopped or delayed by a republican controlled senate and house? don't you see how dangerous trump's rhetoric, narcissism and outright authoritarianism would be problematic with a gop controlled congress?

Dichotomy, I can say perhaps I'm forming one because of the non hyperbolic situations that I'm painting for you here. They are both BLATANT liars. One has just been doing it for the past 26 years while in a public office. Now she wants to do it in one of the most powerful positions in the world. Let all of that sink in. You can't deny any of this "hyperbole". What else do you want to call it? Hyper freedom within a super democratic republic?

This is what i'm talking about w/r/t hyperbole: she's only been in "public office" for one senate term. she was a lawyer for most of her career. being the president's wife isn't a job you apply for and has very minimal impact in setting policy. i'd say if anything she's far less of a blatant liar and much more inclined to use weasel words and weak language to make statements that are less susceptible to scrutiny, and if you look up any of the fact checking websites they entirely reinforce this by looking at the ratio of blatant lying by both candidates.

[BraveUlysses]

wasn't there something like a 20% increase in R primary voters and a 20% decrease in D primary voters?
Hillary is going to lose. millennials don't like hillary, and 90 days is eternity before everyone votes

unskewing those polls huh

[marshallnoise]

Where's your evidence that hillary wants to use nuclear weapons in any capacity? trump has literally been quoted asking "why cant we use nukes on ISIS?"

What are CFR videos?

I asked this last week and I dont think you answered me: what military action can hillary do as president that couldn't be mitigated, stopped or delayed by a republican controlled senate and house? don't you see how dangerous trump's rhetoric, narcissism and outright authoritarianism would be problematic with a gop controlled congress?



This is what i'm talking about w/r/t hyperbole: she's only been in "public office" for one senate term. she was a lawyer for most of her career. being the president's wife isn't a job you apply for and has very minimal impact in setting policy. i'd say if anything she's far less of a blatant liar and much more inclined to use weasel words and weak language to make statements that are less susceptible to scrutiny, and if you look up any of the fact checking websites they entirely reinforce this by looking at the ratio of blatant lying by both candidates.

Dude, Hillary was the architect of centralized healthcare in the early 90s from the bitch seat in the Whitehouse. How much are you going to parse her political influence?

[Schnitzer318is]

You had me until there.

I didn't mean to say they wanted him. The GOP establishment certainly didn't. I'm not sure why anyone does really. He is just as much a liar as Hillary... and though not as severe, also a criminal. His (and the GOP's) problem is that he's also an egotistical narcissist weasel who doesn't know when to consult someone familiar with public speaking in the political arena.

I was just saying that the way the Dems and the Reps operate the way they do is because it works. There hasn't been a third party win since Andrew Johnson...

[mrsleeve]

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Teddy Roosevelt served nearly 2 terms and was a member of the "Bull Moose Party" AKA the Progressive party though after he left office as an leader in the "refomer factions" of the R. The Progressives have not gone away and has morphed it self into controlling both the R's and the D's for the last 40 years or so.

[Dozyproductions]

Where's your evidence that hillary wants to use nuclear weapons in any capacity? trump has literally been quoted asking "why cant we use nukes on ISIS?"

What are CFR videos?

I asked this last week and I dont think you answered me: what military action can hillary do as president that couldn't be mitigated, stopped or delayed by a republican controlled senate and house? don't you see how dangerous trump's rhetoric, narcissism and outright authoritarianism would be problematic with a gop controlled congress?



This is what i'm talking about w/r/t hyperbole: she's only been in "public office" for one senate term. she was a lawyer for most of her career. being the president's wife isn't a job you apply for and has very minimal impact in setting policy. i'd say if anything she's far less of a blatant liar and much more inclined to use weasel words and weak language to make statements that are less susceptible to scrutiny, and if you look up any of the fact checking websites they entirely reinforce this by looking at the ratio of blatant lying by both candidates.

CFR = council of foreign relations. No it doesn't just exist in Alex Jones head. No, I do not get any any of my "news" from him. They have press conferences where people say things. Clinton has press conferences and makes speeches. She says things in these speeches. These things you can find on the internet and in books. She has said, being recorded on video, that she would punish China, Russia and Iran by going to war with them while keeping the nuclear option for Iran. Nuclear option means using nuclear bombs.

Then to continue, on this internet you can find where almost every position she has held she has flipped on and then denied ever flipping. These denials are called lies, not weasel words. With this same internet look up her career as that lawyer, what she did during her husbands presidency, as a senator and secretary of state.

To get back to this. Are we going to deny we live in an authoritarian form of government? Doesn't seem like either candidate is too separated on those type of issues. Are you waiting for CNN to tell you this cuz it'll never happen. She is not, how you think, that much better then Trump.

Sooo, If you have enough time to post links about how shitty you think Trump is then you have enough time to look up how shitty she is. How long is this thread for you not of already done at least some digging on your own? We're adults here, beyond my condescending tone, I know you don't need me to do it. You'll be able to find everything I'm saying and if you can't then I'll help you out.

[marshallnoise]

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Teddy Roosevelt served nearly 2 terms and was a member of the "Bull Moose Party" AKA the Progressive party though after he left office as an leader in the "refomer factions" of the R. The Progressives have not gone away and has morphed it self into controlling both the R's and the D's for the last 40 years or so.

This needs to be quoted again and again for an accurate account of history.

[BraveUlysses]

To get back to this. Are we going to deny we live in an authoritarian form of government? Doesn't seem like either candidate is too separated on those type of issues. Are you waiting for CNN to tell you this cuz it'll never happen. She is not, how you think, that much better then Trump.

You ignored my question again

I think you can label certain parts of the government as authoritarian, of course.

Our foreign policy is bad and our military does not need to be expanded.

CFR = council of foreign relations. No it doesn't just exist in Alex Jones head. No, I do not get any any of my "news" from him. They have press conferences where people say things. Clinton has press conferences and makes speeches. She says things in these speeches. These things you can find on the internet and in books. She has said, being recorded on video, that she would punish China, Russia and Iran by going to war with them while keeping the nuclear option for Iran. Nuclear option means using nuclear bombs.

Then to continue, on this internet you can find where almost every position she has held she has flipped on and then denied ever flipping. These denials are called lies, not weasel words. With this same internet look up her career as that lawyer, what she did during her husbands presidency, as a senator and secretary of state.

Sooo, If you have enough time to post links about how shitty you think Trump is then you have enough time to look up how shitty she is. How long is this thread for you not of already done at least some digging on your own? We're adults here, beyond my condescending tone, I know you don't need me to do it. You'll be able to find everything I'm saying and if you can't then I'll help you out.

I'll be honest with you-I'm not going to go on an internet fishing trip looking for information on either of them because I'm not voting for either of them, but I do read links and watch videos that are posted, so if you have something useful to post/link then just do it.

save the condescension for dishonest dumbfucks like gwb who deserve to be ridiculed out of this forum

[Schnitzer318is]

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Teddy Roosevelt served nearly 2 terms and was a member of the "Bull Moose Party" AKA the Progressive party though after he left office as an leader in the "refomer factions" of the R. The Progressives have not gone away and has morphed it self into controlling both the R's and the D's for the last 40 years or so.

This needs to be quoted again and again for an accurate account of history.

I'm not an expert, and much of my high school AP classes have long since slipped my mind (Google helped jog my memory though)... but didn't Roosevelt serve those two terms as a Republican, and then form the Progressive party after failing to get the Republican nomination for a third term in favor of Taft?

[gwb72tii]

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Teddy Roosevelt served nearly 2 terms and was a member of the "Bull Moose Party" AKA the Progressive party though after he left office as an leader in the "refomer factions" of the R. The Progressives have not gone away and has morphed it self into controlling both the R's and the D's for the last 100+ years or so.

fixed

[Schnitzer318is]

Got quiet in here...

[nando]

What more is there to say? Hilary is still flawed and the GOP nomination is imploding.

[marshallnoise]

What more is there to say? Hilary is still flawed and the GOP nomination is imploding.

Imploding is strong. And flawed is weak.

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[nando]

OK, sure. Also, the sky is green and grass is blue.

[BraveUlysses]

Got quiet in here...

even gwb won't defend it! (but will probably vote for him anyway)

keep taking on water trump, you're going to drag the house and senate while you're at it :rofl: