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Originally posted by nando View PostThe problem is our entire society relies on the stable pattern of climate, and we are currently destabilizing it unnecessarily.Last edited by mrsleeve; 11-15-2016, 08:53 AM.Originally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostAs farby pointed out just assuming that the cause is us is a bit short sighted when we really have no fucking clue about how the weather works year over year, outside of our own very short time on this ball of dirt. Couple that with accurate record keeping, that dates back to only a couple of decades older than my grandmother..... is bit of a derpy derp, way to go about looking at the problem. Just because there is an "obvious answer" does not mean it's the correct answer, and when your only playing with very limited data points, jumping to the conclusion of "settled science" is a bit like putting blinders on a horse to focus his attention on only what you want him to see. The harder yoi look in 1 place for the answer your convinced is there, the more likely you are to find 1, correct or not. AS brave loves to point out corelation does not nessaeirly mean causation, should I go find the pirates vs global average temp graph again........
Canada is considering a carbon tax starting next year, starting at $10/ton, moving to $50 by 2025. And we produce less than 2% of global emissions... yeah, Canada is gonna save the world, folks! All they're going to do is hit our pocket books even harder.Estoguy
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Originally posted by estoguy View PostCanada is considering a carbon tax starting next year, starting at $10/ton, moving to $50 by 2025. And we produce less than 2% of global emissions... yeah, Canada is gonna save the world, folks! All they're going to do is hit our pocket books even harder.past:
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Originally posted by decay View Postwell if everyone points the finger at everyone else, i'm sure that'll solve the problem quickly. good idea
Hell, California alone thinks they can save the world and have the most aggressive EPA out there. All it does is line the pockets of politicians, manufacture industries that shouldn't exist, and make life difficult for business owners and consumers.
So unless you are going to go into China with guns to force them to clean up their environment, this is a huge waste of time.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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China actually has more urgency to get its pollution under control than any other country right now. Folks in Beijing can't even walk around outside without wearing face masks. LA back in the early 70s was a lot smoggier than it is today. The river in Cleveland used to catch on fire. These are just a couple of examples where government policy has yielded a positive impact on our environment. Even if global warming doesn't concern you, we still have to breathe air and drink water right now in the present."I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm."
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Originally posted by Morrison View PostChina actually has more urgency to get its pollution under control than any other country right now. Folks in Beijing can't even walk around outside without wearing face masks. LA back in the early 70s was a lot smoggier than it is today. The river in Cleveland used to catch on fire. These are just a couple of examples where government policy has yielded a positive impact on our environment. Even if global warming doesn't concern you, we still have to breathe air and drink water right now in the present.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in
some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce
Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in
climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report
continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast
shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far
north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.
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I must apologize.
I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported
by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 93 years ago.
This must have been caused by the Model T Ford's emissions or possibly from horse and cattle flatulence?“There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
Sir Winston Churchill
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God its such a fucking joke that some of you think this is normal changes in climate.
When the planet was "warming up, and cooling down" thousands (in reality hundreds of thousands to millions) of years ago it wasn't doing it in a fucking century, at the extreme rates its happening at now.
I cant wait for the outrage as many more millions of refugees from the middle east and tropics run to our northern and southern homes to escape massive temperature increases caused by ignoring the signs.1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4willschnitz
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Originally posted by Wschnitz View PostGod its such a fucking joke that some of you think this is normal changes in climate.
When the planet was "warming up, and cooling down" thousands (in reality hundreds of thousands to millions) of years ago it wasn't doing it in a fucking century, at the extreme rates its happening at now.
I cant wait for the outrage as many more millions of refugees from the middle east and tropics run to our northern and southern homes to escape massive temperature increases caused by ignoring the signs.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Originally posted by Wschnitz View PostGod its such a fucking joke that some of you think this is normal changes in climate.
When the planet was "warming up, and cooling down" thousands (in reality hundreds of thousands to millions) of years ago it wasn't doing it in a fucking century, at the extreme rates its happening at now.
I cant wait for the outrage as many more millions of refugees from the middle east and tropics run to our northern and southern homes to escape massive temperature increases caused by ignoring the signs.
Bro, this is Trumps America. Fuck refugees
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Originally posted by Wschnitz View PostGod its such a fucking joke that some of you think this is normal changes in climate.
When the planet was "warming up, and cooling down" thousands (in reality hundreds of thousands to millions) of years ago it wasn't doing it in a fucking century, at the extreme rates its happening at now.
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This is a very very false stament that is not even backed up by most of the "settled science" types. In fact there is plenty of Ice core data that predates modern "humans" that show climate can radically shift in a fucking decade let alone centuriesOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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Originally posted by kickinindian View PostSleeve you cant really talk, you work in the oil industry so you have a huge bias.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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