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  • decay
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2003
    • 5637

    #811
    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    There is no doubt that Native American communities have historically suffered at the hands of the federal government. But to litigate that history on the back of a legally permitted river crossing is absurd. The Obama administration should enforce the law, release the easement and conclude this dangerous standoff.

    Mr. Cramer, a Republican, represents North Dakota in the U.S. House. As a member of the North Dakota Public Service Commission (2003-12) he helped site the original Keystone Pipeline completed in 2010.
    thank you for sharing- but i am respectfully disagreeing on this.

    i would like to make clear that my position here is not that the pipeline shouldn't happen- but it should be done the right way- and the right way was the initial plan.

    if we're calling in air support for legitimacy- Tulsi Gabbard, elected representative, is a fellow veteran (and officer, not enlisted like me) and is on our side of the effort.
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    • BraveUlysses
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jun 2007
      • 3781

      #812
      Originally posted by decay
      i hit the paywall because i read wsj too, so can't read, copypasta would be appreciated if you can.

      but- a leak 70 miles upstream still sounds like a bad thing? if a leak is really not a concern, why was the pipeline routed away from bismarck?

      "there's already a minor risk in the area, so let's go ahead and build a major one too" is not an argument that carries a lot of weight for me.

      edit: and if we're going to go with "rule of law" here, we should review the past 150 years of violations of the laramie treaty.
      you can bypass any WSJ paywall by google searching the title of the article and clicking the link through google (they pay the paywall fee)

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      • decay
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2003
        • 5637

        #813
        Originally posted by BraveUlysses
        you can bypass any WSJ paywall by google searching the title of the article and clicking the link through google (they pay the paywall fee)
        gwb was already kind enough to copypasta, but cool, thanks.
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        • gwb72tii
          No R3VLimiter
          • Nov 2005
          • 3864

          #814
          Originally posted by decay
          thank you for sharing- but i am respectfully disagreeing on this.

          i would like to make clear that my position here is not that the pipeline shouldn't happen- but it should be done the right way- and the right way was the initial plan.

          if we're calling in air support for legitimacy- Tulsi Gabbard, elected representative, is a fellow veteran (and officer, not enlisted like me) and is on our side of the effort.
          what exactly do you disagree with?
          “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
          Sir Winston Churchill

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          • decay
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2003
            • 5637

            #815
            Originally posted by gwb72tii
            what exactly do you disagree with?
            you quoted my position... please read it.
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            • marshallnoise
              No R3VLimiter
              • Sep 2013
              • 3148

              #816
              Originally posted by decay
              the fact that you are conflating Saudi culture with Native American, makes very clear how ignorant you are.

              one of the two has gotten rich exploiting natural resources, and the other has a culture built around respecting mother earth.

              you really should just shut the fuck up, dude. you've made it very clear you have no idea what you're talking about and you're just the alt-right equivalent of a keyboard-social-justice-warrior.
              Culture has nothing to do with it. Absolutely zero. The US and British taught the Saudis how to get oil out of the ground and they instantly got rich. The very same thing would happen to the Native Americans. They put up casinos left and right and don't give a rip about anything other than getting "theirs." They are literally inventing new tribes to be able to claim lands and open their on casinos and get federal funding.

              Of course you would resort to an attempt to shut down and ridicule dissenting opinion. That's par for the course. Fortunately, your opinion on my opinions carry no weight.
              Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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              • Wschnitz
                R3V OG
                • Dec 2011
                • 8089

                #817
                Originally posted by marshallnoise
                They are literally inventing new tribes to be able to claim lands and open their on casinos and get federal funding.

                Of course you would resort to an attempt to shut down and ridicule dissenting opinion. That's par for the course. Fortunately, your opinion on my opinions carry no weight.
                Just like your source-less arguments have no weight fuckin lol. 99% of those fake tribes you are talking about get pointed out by the real tribes to the government. The government is the one who drags their feet on that issue, if it even is an issue.
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                • decay
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5637

                  #818
                  Originally posted by marshallnoise
                  Fortunately, your opinion on my opinions carry no weight.
                  that's exactly what i'd expect an alt-right keyboard warrior with a serious case of dunning-kruger effect to say.
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                  • Wschnitz
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 8089

                    #819
                    Can read trump like a book:

                    Trump nominates Rex Tillerson, but Senate approval not guaranteed; Jill Stein’s vote recount bid ends; Nasa says Earth is unprepared for surprise comets
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                    • Kershaw
                      R3V OG
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 11822

                      #820
                      This is going to be an interesting 4 years.
                      AWD > RWD

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                      • roguetoaster
                        R3V OG
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 7760

                        #821
                        The next 4 will be interesting, but more interesting will be two years hence, and then the 2020 election. Would be interesting to see the US either end up with a single dominant party or go to three real contenders.

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                        • decay
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 5637

                          #822
                          personally, i love the idea of this moving us away from our current entrenched 2-party system.

                          that would be a good outcome, in my opinion.
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                          1986 325e (turbo dorito)
                          1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
                          1985 323i baur
                          current:
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                          • roguetoaster
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 7760

                            #823


                            I'll miss these sorts of antics, and I wonder if the weekly address videos will be kept going?

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                            • marshallnoise
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 3148

                              #824
                              Originally posted by roguetoaster


                              I'll miss these sorts of antics, and I wonder if the weekly address videos will be kept going?
                              I hope not. They are a waste of time.
                              Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                              Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                              Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                              • roguetoaster
                                R3V OG
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 7760

                                #825
                                At least it provides some engagement outside of reading the new.

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