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  • Ryan...
    R3VLimited
    • Feb 2010
    • 2448

    #16
    Glad to see all that time and money is going to really help the poor and impoverished of their country,
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    • tjts1
      E30 Mastermind
      • May 2007
      • 1851

      #17
      Originally posted by Ryan...
      Glad to see all that time and money is going to really help the poor and impoverished of their country,

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      • dirtysix
        E30 Modder
        • Aug 2006
        • 806

        #18
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        • mrsleeve
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Mar 2005
          • 16385

          #19
          ^

          and our prez wants us to have those too.
          Originally posted by Fusion
          If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


          The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

          Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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          • dirtysix
            E30 Modder
            • Aug 2006
            • 806

            #20
            We've signed a free trade deal with them.

            Chinese are coming. Question is, how do we deal with it....
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            • mrsleeve
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Mar 2005
              • 16385

              #21
              Buy our shit from the US and Canada and what is made in your home country as much as you can. its all you can do. Unfortunately its driven by 99% of people wanting the cheapest shit possible regardless if you can service it or if it lasts more than the 90 day warranty.

              Vote with your money and who you buy shit from, it wont stop them, but if enough of you are doing that, it may slow them down a while
              Originally posted by Fusion
              If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
              The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


              The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

              Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
              William Pitt-

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              • dirtysix
                E30 Modder
                • Aug 2006
                • 806

                #22
                Well, that's a lovely idea but, it ignores reality.
                We cant avoid buying Chinese goods. Trade liberalisation policy since the '80s has killed local manufacturing, so there are very few locally made products, and those that remain are under such pressure that wages have plummeted to the point where your products are no longer affordable to the great unwashed.

                Further more, why should we feel any responsibility to buy US or EU goods when your Govt tariffs our exports to the moon and subsidises your farmers up the wazoo?

                This is the reality of international trade relations outside of your country. And what happens to other relations once China surpasses US trade importance?<This is the really interesting question.
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                • Wiglaf
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1513

                  #23
                  It's actually incredibly difficult to buy american anymore.. it takes a lot of research to find the most basic of things.
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                  Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                  If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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                  • mrsleeve
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 16385

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dirtysix
                    Well, that's a lovely idea but, it ignores reality.
                    We cant avoid buying Chinese goods. Trade liberalisation policy since the '80s has killed local manufacturing, so there are very few locally made products, and those that remain are under such pressure that wages have plummeted to the point where your products are no longer affordable to the great unwashed.

                    Further more, why should we feel any responsibility to buy US or EU goods when your Govt tariffs our exports to the moon and subsidises your farmers up the wazoo?

                    This is the reality of international trade relations outside of your country. And what happens to other relations once China surpasses US trade importance?<This is the really interesting question.
                    we have the very same issues here at home too. As far as our farmers, I totally agree with you. Speaking of subsiding farmers, was it not OZ a few years ago that was subsiding the living shit outta corn for ethanol fuel, and drove your corn based goods way off the charts???? Dont feel bad we are doing the same thing in this country too.
                    Originally posted by Fusion
                    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                    The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                    William Pitt-

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                    • dirtysix
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 806

                      #25
                      Originally posted by mrsleeve
                      we have the very same issues here at home too. As far as our farmers, I totally agree with you. Speaking of subsiding farmers, was it not OZ a few years ago that was subsiding the living shit outta corn for ethanol fuel, and drove your corn based goods way off the charts???? Dont feel bad we are doing the same thing in this country too.
                      I'm not 100% sure but I don't recall spikes in corn prices. I'm under the impression that most Aussie ethanol is made from sugar cane(?). They subsidise that heavily.
                      I've never understood the whole subsidising biofuels bullshit myself.

                      But meh, I grow corn in the backyard myself ha.
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                      • joshh
                        R3V OG
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6195

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Wiglaf
                        It's actually incredibly difficult to buy american anymore.. it takes a lot of research to find the most basic of things.


                        Specially when i refuse to buy certain things because of the company involved...GM for example...
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                        • dirtysix
                          E30 Modder
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 806

                          #27
                          As far buying locally made, we attempt to do that where we can and we try to buy local produce (we should try harder) where we can also, but you end up pissing in the wind against a tide of cheap crap from asia and a population who are too stupid to realise themselves.

                          PS, I did buy a John Deer mower, made in the US and tough as old boots. Probably should have bought a local one, but wasn't aware there was such a thing ha.
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                          • homegrone30
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1449

                            #28
                            A little off topic but I would love to hall ass through one of those ghost citys in my e30 or a supermoto or something.

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                            • FKNFASTM5
                              E30 Addict
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 493

                              #29
                              That is absolutely incredible! Reminds me of Chernobyl or what will become of alot of areas in japan after their nuclear disaster



                              Edit: Some more talk of this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h7V3Twb-Qk

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