When did US citizens become such cowards?

[z31maniac]

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/28/norway/

"Over the last decade, virtually every Terrorist plot aimed at the U.S. -- whether successful or failed -- has provoked greater security and surveillance measures. Within a matter of mere weeks, the 9/11 attacks infamously spawned a vast new surveillance statute (the Patriot Act), a secretly implemented warrantless eavesdropping program in violation of the law, an explosion of domestic surveillance contracts, a vastly fortified secrecy regime, and endless wars in multiple countries. As it turned out, that massive over-reaction was not a crisis-driven anomaly but rather the template for future actions."

[mrsleeve]

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin


I think this post of yours is bordering on my and Farbins Realm of tinfoil hattery. I think some of us have been saying this for awhile now ;)

[herbivor]

^ I was thinking that quote before I saw you wrote it. Who new for a brief second we would be on the same wavelength?

The question is would you rather the government stop the eavesdropping knowing the risk for a terrorist attack would increase?

[z31maniac]

^ I was thinking that quote before I saw you wrote it. Who new for a brief second we would be on the same wavelength?

The question is would you rather the government stop the eavesdropping knowing the risk for a terrorist attack would increase?

You are completely unfamiliar with the concept of contradiction, aren't you?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Let me try this here...

If/then statement.

If you stop checking every electronic form of communication between human beings, then the terrorists will blow the entire world to kingdom come.

[z31maniac]

The question is would you rather the government stop the eavesdropping knowing the risk for a terrorist attack would increase?

You mean like how before the invasive pat downs were started by the TSA 18 months ago, planes were being brought down left and right since 9/11?

[joshh]

To answer the original question. When you create an atmosphere in America of others always being the woe of your problems, paying people to be unproductive, Government paying for people's personal problems, a justice system set up to punish lesser crimes than the inexcusable crimes, workers in some industries not held to a production standard or they're fired etc you get pussification.

[Wiglaf]

Let me try this here...

If/then statement.

If you stop checking every electronic form of communication between human beings, then the terrorists will blow the entire world to kingdom come.

How about this:
IF we just fucking leave them alone and stop helping their enemies, THEN they won't want to blow us up.

I'm honestly surprised we don't have more domestic problems with the congress/senate being a bag of assholes.

[joshh]

How about this:
IF we just fucking leave them alone and stop helping their enemies, THEN they won't want to blow us up.

I'm honestly surprised we don't have more domestic problems with the congress/senate being a bag of assholes.

Welcome to Sheryl Crow's world.

"I think war is never the answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies." Sheryl Crow

Welcome to reality. It's not that simple.

[Wiglaf]

sure it is.

It takes a lot of motivation to get someone into a country, trained to fly airplanes, then go through with a suicide mission.

It takes a lot of motivation to build a devastating bomb.

These aren't guys who just missed the breakfast menu by 5 minutes and went postal. They are serious enemies.

[mrsleeve]

^

They are holding a grudge aginst the jews going back a 1000 years. They are still mad about the christans coming to the holy land a few time 600-700 years ago.

Helping their enemies ??? Splain. Oh yeah I know what you are getting at.....

[Chaos Theory]

U.S are the worlds biggest terrorists.

[mrsleeve]

^
Your attempts at trolling are getting really tired and obvious try a little harder would ya

[Chaos Theory]

You only think I'm trolling because you're an American idiot who believes it is acceptable for the U.S to invade/bomb/nuke other countries for no reason other than making themselves richer.

EDIT: "Terrorist" attacks and plots are merely lies to trick your citizens into following the evil agenda of your government. You probably believe that man they killed in Pakistan was actually Osama Bin Laden.

[TurboJake]

ter·ror·ism   
[ter-uh-riz-uhm] –noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Shock and awe

Shock and awe (technically known as rapid dominance) is a military doctrine based on the use of overwhelming power, dominant battlefield awareness, dominant maneuvers, and spectacular displays of force to paralyze an adversary's perception of the battlefield and destroy its will to fight.


That's about as deep as I'm willing to take this argument on an internet forum....