Global Warming is over.

[cale]

you deny warming has stopped?

It hasn't, but thanks for time and time again reaffirming my belief that you're scientifically illiterate. You really are incapable of anything new, recycling arguments that have been refuted multiple times by several individuals.

Lets put it in financial sense, albeit terribly. If a particular stock has shown a steady rise for 20 years (the last 200 of warming), and in the last 1 year (last decade you're claiming has no warming) things have trended similar to how they have in the past with some leveling off, you would pull all your investments immediately despite 9 of the 10 record highs occurring in that period? That's essentially what you're claiming by saying there's no warming, and if you truly would do that I'm terrified to think people trust you with their money. To think you deal with trends similar to this on a daily basis and you still can't understand it is painful.

[rwh11385]

I lol'd. I like how they never brought that up until they (now) need it.
I'm not questioning whether or not the data is decisive or manipulated for AR5, rather the way and schedule in which data is brought forward.

ummmm... When did you expect research to be published when the sensor network was only completed in late 2007? (It's also hard to make any conclusions at the instant that the global network is completed)

http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/Origins_of_Argo.html

The origins of Argo can be found in the 1990-1997 World Ocean Circulation Experiment (WOCE). WOCE is part of the World Climate Research Programme (WCRP) and set out to collect an unprecedented set of observations.

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It was soon realised that as they rose to the surface the ALACEs could also measure the temperature and salinity of the water through which they rose and towards the end of WOCE most of the ALACEs carried temperature/salinity sensors.

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Two documents prepared simultaneously in 1998 by Dean Roemmich of Scripps Institution of Oceanography and Ray Schmitt of Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution explore the potential of using profiling floats to monitor the ocean.

" A Proposal for Global Ocean Observations for Climate: the Array for Real-time Geostrophic Oceanography (ARGO)" (Roemmich)
" A program for Global Ocean SAlinity MonitORing (GOSAMOR)" (Schmitt)

http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/

Lack of sustained observations of the atmosphere, oceans and land have hindered the development and validation of climate models. An example comes from a recent analysis which concluded that the currents transporting heat northwards in the Atlantic and influencing western European climate had weakened by 30% in the past decade. This result had to be based on just five research measurements spread over 40 years. Was this change part of a trend that might lead to a major change in the Atlantic circulation, or due to natural variability that will reverse in the future, or is it an artifact of the limited observations?

In 1999, to combat this lack of data, an innovative step was taken by scientists to greatly improve the collection of observations inside the ocean through increased sampling of old and new quantities and increased coverage in terms of time and area.

That step was Argo.


Where is Argo now?

Argo deployments began in 2000 and by November 2007 the array is 100% complete.

http://www.gizmag.com/argo-program-ocean-data/8446/

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Ocean-Cooling-Corrected-Again.html

The ARGO float network began rollout in 2000, but prior to 2005 there wasn't sufficent global coverage, and because of this Von Schuckmann and Le Traon (2011) start their analysis from 2005 onwards. The authors found that only after November 2007 (when ARGO was 100% complete) is the ARGO network sufficiently robust to give accurate short-term trends of what they term 'global ocean indicators'. This being steric sea level changes (sea level rise from thermal expansion as the oceans warm), heat content, and ocean salinity.

I guess most scientists have to put out sensors and collect data before they can use it... but I agree it would have been better if this concept was thought up and funded earlier.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/03/25/1768601/in-hot-water-global-warming-has-accelerated-in-past-15-years-new-study-of-oceans-confirms/?mobile=nc

Completely contrary to the popular contrarian myth, global warming has accelerated, with more overall global warming in the past 15 years than the prior 15 years. This is because about 90% of overall global warming goes into heating the oceans, and the oceans have been warming dramatically.

As suspected, much of the ‘missing heat’ Kevin Trenberth previously talked about has been found in the deep oceans. Consistent with the results of Nuccitelli et al. (2012), this study finds that 30% of the ocean warming over the past decade has occurred in the deeper oceans below 700 meters, which they note is unprecedented over at least the past half century.

Some recent studies have concluded based on the slowed global surface warming over the past decade that the sensitivity of the climate to the increased greenhouse effect is somewhat lower than the IPCC best estimate. Those studies are fundamentally flawed because they do not account for the warming of the deep oceans.

[rwh11385]

So it would make sense to rename this thread "Global warming is over, either that or that fucker's hiding somewhere".
And this just proves the whole witch hunt aspect of this entire retardation and religion.

Serious and basic question here Pavel - for what rationale do you reject completely the notion of global warming / climate change? Which portion of it do you find false or wrong? That GHGs don't impact how the atmosphere absorbs energy? Or that you assume that energy disappears or can be destroyed? Or that mysteriously all additional energy escapes the planet without finding a planetary heat sink?

It'd be one thing if you or any other denier present an alternate possibility of what happens to the energy / heat that comes as a result of GHGs - but mostly all you seem to do is attack science while providing nothing more than ignoring reality. If anything, denial based on nothing is much more of a religion than the understanding of science and concepts that support an explanation of natural phenomenon.

[MF DOOM]

[CorvallisBMW]

Is GW still over? Good. Fuck GW.

[nando]

GW crowd is running out of "warmth" so along comes the conspiracy theory card

that's funny. March 31 was a record breaking day in BC, Canada - and not by .1 degrees or anything. several records were broken by 2-3 celcius, which is a huge margin. Also, all the previous records that were just broken were in the last 20 years.

Keep your heads buried in the sand guys.

[CorvallisBMW]

last weekend we broke records 2 days in a row by 7F. Totally a conspiracy though.

[MF DOOM]

The worlds been changing since before we were here. Pangea, multiple ice ages, mother fucking dinosaurs, etc. ya know? what comes after cold? only two choices. Gets colder or warmer.

plant a tree and shut up.

conspiracyfoshotho

[cale]

Spoken perfectly as someone who possesses nothing more than generic faint knowledge of the science. Keep sharing your wisdom with us.

[z31maniac]

I'd be for GW if it wasn't for July/August in OK.

I think last year we broke the US record for highest avg temperature for 12 months. Even just before the sun comes up it's still generally 85-86°. And then will be 100+ from 10am until sundown.

But we still get below freezing winters.

[mrsleeve]

last weekend we broke records 2 days in a row by 7F. Totally a conspiracy though.

Yup a freak warm day in the end of march signifies the world is warming like a freak early october foot of snow, signifies its cooling.

Or how about that same weekend where it was warm in the PNW the Mid west got hammered with 12-14 inches of snow IN has the 4th snowiest march on record and was 549* cooler over all compared to Last march 2 and that was 2 weeks ago when I was in Indy. Or the fact that the winter of 11-12 the mid west and east had the "winter that wasn't" and this winter they cant catch a break with the cold and snow while the PNW and Northern Rockies in lower elevations had one of the mildest winters in recent memory, just like the east did last year.........................

[nando]

I think it's more that records are being continuously broken, and by huge margins, than a "freak hot day". Usually records like that stand for tens of decades, but now they last maybe 5-10 years before being broken again.

Nobody said climate change couldn't result in more extreme winter weather. actually, I think that is the point.

[herbivor]

More faulty climate modeling. Can't these guys get it right?

[CorvallisBMW]

Yup a freak warm day in the end of march signifies the world is warming like a freak early october foot of snow, signifies its cooling.

Or how about that same weekend where it was warm in the PNW the Mid west got hammered with 12-14 inches of snow IN has the 4th snowiest march on record and was 549* cooler over all compared to Last march 2 and that was 2 weeks ago when I was in Indy. Or the fact that the winter of 11-12 the mid west and east had the "winter that wasn't" and this winter they cant catch a break with the cold and snow while the PNW and Northern Rockies in lower elevations had one of the mildest winters in recent memory, just like the east did last year.........................

I think you missed my sarcasm...

[Fusion]

Present in the Pliocene era, this giant mass of water would have dramatically altered rainfall in the tropics, possibly even removing the monsoon. Its decay and the consequential drying of East Africa may have been a factor in Hominid evolution.

I'm not sure whether they're just looking too far back or skipped over the known fact that the Nile used to reach near the Great Pyramid, the area was very plant abundant and had high amounts of rain fall. Thus possibly suggesting that EA goes through long term cycles of very dry and very wet weather.