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  • herbivor
    E30 Fanatic
    • Apr 2009
    • 1420

    #316
    Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
    Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says it’s now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Gore’s) were incorrect.
    I'd agree with this. Do you as well since you quoted the article?
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    • Farbin Kaiber
      Lil' Puppet
      • Jul 2007
      • 29502

      #317
      I'm sure humans may be contributing, but how significantly, I cannot assume to say. It's unfortunate we have not yet mastered time travel to go back and place sensors a few hundred thousand years back to get actual, long term results and measurements to use to accurately postulate from the scientific facts.

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      • herbivor
        E30 Fanatic
        • Apr 2009
        • 1420

        #318
        Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
        I'm sure humans may be contributing, but how significantly, I cannot assume to say. It's unfortunate we have not yet mastered time travel to go back and place sensors a few hundred thousand years back to get actual, long term results and measurements to use to accurately postulate from the scientific facts.
        We can't time travel back to when the universe began, but there is enough evidence to know about when it happened, and how the earth formed, etc. The evidence may not be exact, but it can be a close approximation.
        There is other evidence that was left behind that helps us understand how the climate changed and approximately what it was like if you were willing to read up on it. In fact, new "markers" are discovered almost every week, although you won't find out about them in the main stream news or the Toronto Sun. You have to read science journals and articles, which most people don't subscribe too.
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        • Farbin Kaiber
          Lil' Puppet
          • Jul 2007
          • 29502

          #319
          Well, I if understand a "close approximation" in the concept of percentages, a few degree change would fall somewhere within the percentage error area, right? So it could be meaningless, right?

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          • herbivor
            E30 Fanatic
            • Apr 2009
            • 1420

            #320
            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
            Well, I if understand a "close approximation" in the concept of percentages, a few degree change would fall somewhere within the percentage error area, right? So it could be meaningless, right?
            Read the real science for yourself and decide. It's far from meaningless.
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            • Farbin Kaiber
              Lil' Puppet
              • Jul 2007
              • 29502

              #321
              You'd think if it was far from meaningless, the science journals and publications would provide that material to the entire population as opposed to sympathetic paying readers.

              One would think they would be providing this info to all of society so we could understand and make the changes implied to head off this catastrophic series of events.

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              • mrsleeve
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Mar 2005
                • 16385

                #322
                common sense is no longer common there farb, attempting to use it will only cause more headaches than its worth. Your better off trying to beat your common sense out of your head on a brick wall
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                • gwb72tii
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 3864

                  #323
                  Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                  You'd think if it was far from meaningless, the science journals and publications would provide that material to the entire population as opposed to sympathetic paying readers.

                  One would think they would be providing this info to all of society so we could understand and make the changes implied to head off this catastrophic series of events.
                  its proprietary info only for true believers

                  ps. there is NO empirical data that proves AGW. lots of models, lots of data that supports biases in the models, but no smoking gun

                  edit; seriously, what do the AGW scientists have to hide when they will not give up their tax payer funded research, such as the algorithms behind michael mann's hockey stick bullshit. there should be a rule that if you accept tax-payer funded $ for AGW research EVERY model, EVERY calculation, EVERYTHING should be available for the public to see and challenge. NO exceptions, NONE.
                  Last edited by gwb72tii; 06-23-2012, 07:55 PM.
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                  • Farbin Kaiber
                    Lil' Puppet
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 29502

                    #324
                    Sounds like a religion.

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                    • herbivor
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1420

                      #325
                      Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                      Sounds like a religion.
                      So your opinion is that AGW theory is based on superstition and conspiracy? Then where does AGW denial stand for you? Is that based on science and facts moreso than the AGW theory? And if so, why are you quick to agree with the "evidence" of one but not the other?

                      BTW, aren't you a Christian, and me an atheist. Shouldn't that tell you something as to who is more willing to follow religion?
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                      • gwb72tii
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 3864

                        #326
                        herb, you sound awfully religious to me
                        “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                        Sir Winston Churchill

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                        • Farbin Kaiber
                          Lil' Puppet
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 29502

                          #327
                          Originally posted by herbivor
                          So your opinion is that AGW theory is based on superstition and conspiracy? Then where does AGW denial stand for you? Is that based on science and facts moreso than the AGW theory? And if so, why are you quick to agree with the "evidence" of one but not the other?

                          BTW, aren't you a Christian, and me an atheist. Shouldn't that tell you something as to who is more willing to follow religion?
                          Sounds like I've already got my God, I'm not on the hunt for something to fill that space within me. You...

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                          • herbivor
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1420

                            #328
                            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                            I'm sure humans may be contributing, but how significantly, I cannot assume to say. It's unfortunate we have not yet mastered time travel to go back and place sensors a few hundred thousand years back to get actual, long term results and measurements to use to accurately postulate from the scientific facts.
                            So if you think humans may be contributing what would you do to figure out how much we are contributing and if it's significant or not?
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                            • gwb72tii
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3864

                              #329
                              pretty easy to figure out anthropogenic CO2 right? <4% annually. even the "believers" agree with that figure.
                              the UN needs to outlaw volcano's, cows, and all animals that breath in O2 and exhale CO2
                              “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                              Sir Winston Churchill

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                              • herbivor
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1420

                                #330
                                Originally posted by gwb72tii
                                pretty easy to figure out anthropogenic CO2 right? <4% annually. even the "believers" agree with that figure.
                                the UN needs to outlaw volcano's, cows, and all animals that breath in O2 and exhale CO2
                                You can't answer the question can you so you decide to resort to snide comments? I guess I shouldn't have expected an intelligent debate.
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