Question for Christians.

[scabzzzz]

Everything Christianity does and exists for can be accomplished through not having any religious affiliation.
With that being said, Christianity is bought and sold as if its a good or something obtainable. Most of the serious answers I see in here sound like rhetoric from church, saying a bunch of something and nothing of anything in particular. Which pretty much describes the human race too when put into perspective. Pretty evident we're all a part of something bigger than ourselves, why people need to create a "reason" for being is way above me. Seems stupid. Look around at the planet Earth, is this not good enough for you?

[Fourbanger]

This is why religion is such a ridiculous belief system, if there is a god he would not be of any religion as religion is a belief structure which we humans have founded...so why would he car what path lead you too him? So arrogant of theists to think they'd even know what it is a god would want, everyones got a story about him interacting with us in so way or another but they all come from primative texts which one needs to piece together with great faith to it's validity to even know anything about these so called interactions. Such desparity to feel as though we're needed or to give credit where none is necessary.

Agreed. If there is a god, which is impossible to know, it's arrogant to think that we could know ANYTHING about him. The bible is a book of parables written by man many many years ago, then passed down and translated. Hardly a reliable source, but there are those who take it literally. And then if something is too ridiculous to be believable (like fitting 2 animals of every species onto a boat) they claim that that one story is a parable, refusing to acknowledge that the entire thing is more than likely pure fiction. Historians were around back in Jesus' day yet it's impossible to find any non-religious texts referencing him. Surely if someone came around performing miracles they would have been documented.

Not saying that the bible is worthless or that you couldn't learn anything from it, it just bugs me when people take it as God's word or whatever. Find me some proof that Jesus even existed.

Faith is ignoring the lack of evidence and buying into the crap that's being pushed by self-interested humans. If you think for yourself and find your own spiritual path it's going to hold a lot more meaning than just blindly following. But I don't want to burn for eternity in Hell so I might as well believe just to be safe :roll:


Sorry if that doesn't fit in with the rest of the thread. I'm not gonna read the whole thing but I assume after 6 pages it must have descended into general religious bashing by now.

[cale]

Agnostics are just afraid to tell their friends they are atheist.

Its okay man just let go and be free.

Not quite. I used to call myself an atheist, and as ridiculous as I think the claims of a conscious self-creating force are it's impossible to know. I totally reject claims made by religion, but beyond that no one can say with certainty.

[InuFaye]

I'm an atheist but I don't go shoving it down peoples throats.

I just am amused by all the Tebow is jesus posts.

[slammin.e28]

Agnostics are just afraid to tell their friends they are atheist.

Its okay man just let go and be free.

Lol....I pretty much use that term loosely. Really, I am not one who cares, so agnostic, sure, atheist, sure. Not that they are one in the same, I just have an agnostic point of view, but could be considered an athiest.

[InuFaye]

Agnostics are just afraid to tell their friends they are atheist.

Its okay man just let go and be free.

[slammin.e28]

what religion is god?

What is god?

I'm pretty agnostic myself, but I do feel I answer to a higher power. My "little voice inside" is my god, but not in the worship sense, more in a do what is right, accountability sense.

I went to church until I was 19. I am 22. I believe religion is a way to control people, or at least, it is used as such more often than not.

I don't hate one religion or the other, I just go along and worry about me. I don't try to push agnosticism on others, and I appreciate others not try to push religion on me.

My above post ("Whuut....") was mainly satirical.

[cale]

what religion is god?

Of course he's off the same religion that fits with the one asking the question, and everyone else is wrong :roll:

This is why religion is such a ridiculous belief system, if there is a god he would not be of any religion as religion is a belief structure which we humans have founded...so why would he car what path lead you too him? So arrogant of theists to think they'd even know what it is a god would want, everyones got a story about him interacting with us in so way or another but they all come from primative texts which one needs to piece together with great faith to it's validity to even know anything about these so called interactions. Such desparity to feel as though we're needed or to give credit where none is necessary.

[Kershaw]

Anywho, what kind of religion worships someone of a different religion....hmmmm?

what religion is god?

[Sagaris]

Whuut?

Jesus was a Jew.

'Nuff said.

All things considered....I have no real input beyond that for this thread.

Anywho, what kind of religion worships someone of a different religion....hmmmm?

God reveals his truth to his prophets. In the Old Testament, the Jews were God's people which lived the commandments. When you read the New Testament, you read about the Sadducees and Pharisees which were Jewish sects that took things way too literally such as how many steps you could take on the sabbath and debating on whether it was sin to help someone on the sabbath. These groups originated from God's truth but they became wicked, did not listen to God's prophets and distorted the truth over time.
Throughout the bible you can see a pattern of how God calls prophets to restore the truth, the people reject them and kill them, and the truth is distorted.

Read the parable of the wicked husbandmen for a parable told by Christ about this very same concept Matthew 21:33-46 KJV


I am not here to debate what I just posted. It is purely my understanding on the topic, take it or leave it.

[slammin.e28]

sounds kosher.

Whuut?

Jesus was a Jew.

'Nuff said.

All things considered....I have no real input beyond that for this thread.

Anywho, what kind of religion worships someone of a different religion....hmmmm?

[Schneller 3er]

That would be Judaism? I don't think we need to get in an argument, as I know this is the common view around here and in America...
I'd love for this to be a serious, and well responded thread, but its doomed to turn into an argument.

Not quite. Besides the Bible, I was refering to the nation of Israel as one of the greatest proof (at least for me) that God exists, and why I believe that Jesus Christ was his son. In the bible Ezekiel 66, it says that a nation would be born in a day. That happened on May 14,1948 and it still exists today despite of all the threats.
God's work with Israel is not finished. For those that read the Bible, this all can be found in Revlations.

[smooth]

Jesus, however, was one sent from heaven in a sense.
Born as a miracle from the virgin Mary, it was announced by angel Gabriel, "I am only a messenger from your Lord(God), (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son."

Keep in mind that only in catholicism is immaculate conception a universal doctrine. In all other christian denominations beliefs range from immaculate conception (catholics and their protestant derivatives--Anglicans, Lutherans, and Calvinists) to being born of an unwed or young mother (fundamentalists - Four square, Church of God, and Seventh Day Adventists) to even the extreme position that a deity had physical intercourse with Mary (Mormons).

[nickflic3]

Not tricks here haha Just trying to understand where your coming from is all :p

[ak-]

Alright I am starting to grasp a little bit thanks to you and Mr kaiser.
You answered the questions adequately thanks lol But when you say sent, do you mean sent from heaven like Jesus or people who essentially had a calling and walked around sharing the word? From what I gather you believe what I believe haha

I feel like you're setting me up for a trick question haha, but both in a sense.
Prophets were the elite(morals/chosen ways of life) of their society and chosen to be messengers because of it.

Jesus, however, was one sent from heaven in a sense.
Born as a miracle from the virgin Mary, it was announced by angel Gabriel, "I am only a messenger from your Lord(God), (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son."

And you're right, we do both basically believe the same thing (: