TPPA agreement

[Dozyproductions]

What do you guys think on this stuff and other bills like ACTA? IMO, the internet is the last bastion of hope against the ruling class and they know it. The power to regulate it wholly will complete the power of all forms of communication.

http://www.ustr.gov/tpp

On November 12, 2011, the Leaders of the nine Trans-Pacific Partnership countries – Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam, and the United States – announced the achievement of the broad outlines of an ambitious, 21st-century Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement that will enhance trade and investment among the TPP partner countries, promote innovation, economic growth and development, and support the creation and retention of jobs. President Obama along with the other eight TPP leaders agreed to seek to finalize an agreement in the coming year.

In other words.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) is a “free trade” agreement currently under negotiation between NZ and 8 other countries, including the U.S. There have been numerous rounds since negotiations began in March 2010. They originally aimed to finish it in late 2011; now they say 2012 (… or 2014 or … never?)
Trade is only a minor part of the agreement. That’s just a clever branding exercise. A TPPA would be an agreement that guarantees special rights to foreign investors. If these negotiations succeed they will create a mega-treaty across 9 countries that will put a straight jacket around what policies and laws our governments can adopt for the next century – think GM labelling, foreign investment laws, price of medicines, regulating dodgy finance firms, NZ content on TV …

http://tppwatch.org/what-is-tppa/

Criticism

The United States will continue to use multi-national treaties negotiated in secret without the consultation of civil society or other key stakeholders as a way of ramming US IP policy down the throats of other countries.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/acta-would-usurp-congressional-authority-threatens-numerous-public-interests-a-backroom-special-interest-deal.html

For ACTA

[Wiglaf]

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120126/03162017547/public-interest-groups-speak-out-about-next-weeks-secret-meeting-hollywood-to-negotiate-tpp-think-international-sopa.shtml

[e30trooper]

this wont happen

[Wiglaf]

this wont happen

I'm enjoying techdirt's coverage of this. With SOPA and ACTA, the whole damn internet went on guard. They obviously weren't expecting this, and trying to secretly push something through just ain't gonna fly anymore.

[Dozyproductions]

Man this bill has been a long time in the making! They released the full writing now.

https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text

[M-technik-3]

NAFTA on Steroids folks, get ready to take it in the shorts. This is not going to help our country. You see how well NAFTA helped.

[ONRAILSM3]

Brexit slowed the ttip, aka the #TPP

[BobombETA]

I'm not an economist, but don't most tariffs ultimately create retaliatory tariffs, which are then ultimately passed on to the consumer?

[Dozyproductions]

World wide tariffs are generally already low and these agreements will continue to cut them. Just more incentive to shipping jobs away in order to give us cheaper goods. See it for what you will.

What's really being protected here is property rights. Patents and protection of future profits. Secret international tribunals where corporations can sue governments when their bottom line is threatened, such as: a country's internal conflict, certain public health services, environmental protections, and merely shit like raising the minimum wage. The possibilities are endless.

TPP, TTIP, TISA are 3 series of enormous agreements in which most of the world is signing in their respective regions. The connecting factor here is that the USA is in all 3. We're using it to protect our interests, ahem our corporate interests, against arising competition within China, Brazil and Russia for example. It's a cash grab while being an effective geo political weapon.

[Massive Lee]

The TTPA is also used to keep countries from engaging in a peaceful and democratic process against Israel's activiites in Palestine : BDS is the equivalent of the economic and cultural boycot performed against South-Africa's Apartheid in the 1980s and 1990s. And it worked.


"The agreement’s political undercurrents are apparent in view of the unprecedented measures that the US is attempting to push through that codify legislation to combat the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel – essentially designed to discourage governments around the world from participating in BDS activities by leveraging the incentive of free trade with the US."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp-is-part-of-obamas-pivot-to-asia/5494409

Basically, Obama is a puppet with AIPAC's hand in his ass. AIPAC being the very powerful pro-Israeli lobby group in the United States : American Israel Public Affaits Comittee.

[Kershaw]

What difference does it really make? The NSA monitors all net traffic already. They record your calls, log texts, log your site visits, log your posts, lol... the game is already over.

[roguetoaster]

Basically, Obama is a puppet with AIPAC's hand in his ass. AIPAC being the very powerful pro-Israeli lobby group in the United States : American Israel Public Affaits Comittee.

Some would say that's being fisted, and not exactly controlled like a puppet.

[Massive Lee]

Some would say that's being fisted, and not exactly controlled like a puppet.

You're correct. US senators and presidents (past and present) have been fisted by AIPAC. A group that is lobbying for the interests of a foreign country and has imposed a few conditions in the TPPA agreement such as criminalizing BDS. :(

[Rsully70sev]

We're getting ripped, we don't win anymore. We're going to start winning so much next year you're going to get tired of winning.