The GOP candidates budget plans would increase the deficit.

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  • z31maniac
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Dec 2007
    • 17566

    #16
    Originally posted by herbivor
    When comparing the budget plans Paul is the most conservatiive, then Obama, then the rest. Now, plans vs. real life and dealing with a shitty congress is a different story.
    The dems had congress in 09 and 10, and still couldn't pass a budget.

    Blaming it on an R controlled House, while the Dems control the Senate is a bit misleading.
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    • mrsleeve
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Mar 2005
      • 16385

      #17
      he dose have a point (a minor one ) though maniac, Congress was shitty then, and its still shitty now. I predict it will still be shitty next year too
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      • Morrison
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        • May 2006
        • 430

        #18
        I also don't think those stats include the impact that some of the candidates' aspirations for invading Iran would affect America's bottom line. That dollar amount is not insignificant and should be considered when looking at the whole picture. Again, Ron Paul wins here. Ironic then that one of the establishment's biggest gripes with him is that he is seen as "soft" on foreign policy.
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        • smooth
          E30 Mastermind
          • Apr 2005
          • 1940

          #19
          Originally posted by z31maniac
          The dems had congress in 09 and 10, and still couldn't pass a budget.

          Blaming it on an R controlled House, while the Dems control the Senate is a bit misleading.
          No, it's not misleading. Go look at the Democrats that came into office and you'll find that their states didn't suddenly become liberals or whatever you associate democrats with. Conflating Democrats from various political positions into one big mashup is misleading.

          It's not like there was a majority of Obama's, Kennedy's, Pelosi's, or Frankens running around Congress in 2009/10. They couldn't pass a budget because the more liberal senators were still in the minority and the same structural constraints prevented a number of more leftward policies from passing that still angers and confuses the base currently.
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          • herbivor
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            • Apr 2009
            • 1420

            #20
            This year, I'm voting for Money. Because Money seems to have the best handle on the country and can influence all our politicians to do whatever he wants. Money also has a strongest appeal and influence amongst the voters. Everyone listens to Money. Money brings the people together on both sides of the isle and Money can be liberal or conservative or whatever it wants. Vote Money 2012.
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