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    Bain Capital vs Obama

    which is worse?
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    #2
    Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
    I vote Obama giving money to solar companies is far worse than Bain Capital.
    Am I right? What do I win?
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      #3
      More proof that just because you throw a shit ton of money at something doesn't make it a viable product that people will want to buy. Or make it competitive in the market.
      Just let the green retards keep throwing billions of tax payer dollars at alternative energy to see many of the companies crap out.
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        #4
        Even if there are billions going into greener energy projects, they're competing with a trillion dollar industry. Change is difficult when you're going up against behemoths who own the energy industry.

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          #5
          "Nothing good has ever come of projects with Federal support!!!"
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            #6
            Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
            "Nothing good has ever come of projects with Federal support!!!"
            Can't tell if sarcasm. Hopefully sarcasm.
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              #7
              Originally posted by herbivor View Post
              Can't tell if sarcasm. Hopefully sarcasm.


              He's being sarcastic. But he always leaves out the fact Government has no roll (it's unconstitutional) in investing in Capital Investment with tax payer dollars.
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                #8
                Originally posted by joshh View Post
                He's being sarcastic. But he always leaves out the fact Government has no roll (it's unconstitutional) in investing in Capital Investment with tax payer dollars.
                You assume that is my position, which it is not.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by herbivor View Post
                  I vote Obama giving money to solar companies is far worse than Bain Capital.
                  Am I right? What do I win?
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by joshh View Post
                    He's being sarcastic. But he always leaves out the fact Government has no roll (it's unconstitutional) in investing in Capital Investment with tax payer dollars.
                    I was unaware of that. Where in the Constitution is it prohibited?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cliche Guevara View Post
                      I was unaware of that. Where in the Constitution is it prohibited?
                      Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but the problem is that any powers not specifically enumerated in the Constitution, are supposed to fall under state/local jurisdiction.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                        Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but the problem is that any powers not specifically enumerated in the Constitution, are supposed to fall under state/local jurisdiction.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                          Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but the problem is that any powers not specifically enumerated in the Constitution, are supposed to fall under state/local jurisdiction.
                          A Scalia fan, eh? Would this interpretation also include federal subsidies for products like corn?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                            You assume that is my position, which it is not.

                            I didn't assume anything. It has nothing to do with your personal feelings. You left out the fact it's unconstitutional....in this case.



                            Originally posted by Cliche Guevara View Post
                            A Scalia fan, eh? Would this interpretation also include federal subsidies for products like corn?

                            Of course it would.
                            If anything it helps put in place a false market (farm subsidies) when you pay farmers to farm or in many cases *not farm*.
                            Should I get paid by the Federal government to not produce more cabinets (basically do nothing) because I'm going to help flood the market with wood products? Assuming there may already be "too many" in the market place.


                            How about the feds focus on a system that tells farmers what they could produce in the market place that is under produced for the year instead of subsidies. Just one idea.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by joshh View Post
                              Of course it would.
                              It also helps put in place a false market (farming subsidies) when you pay farmers to farm or in many cases *not farm*.
                              Should I get paid by the Federal government to not produce more cabinets (basically do nothing) because I'm going to help flood the market with wood products? Assuming there may already be "too many" in the market place.
                              Interesting. Very few people are consistent with that viewpoint. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you despise the Commerce Clause.

                              How about the feds focus on a system that tells farmers what they could produce in the market place that is under produced for the year instead of subsidies. Just one idea.
                              What other incentive is there aside from financial that the federal government could offer?

                              Do you also oppose federal funding for scientific research?

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