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  • rwh11385
    lance_entities
    • Oct 2003
    • 18403

    #181
    Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
    You said...



    Speaking of things being either "wrong", or, "normal". So by your standpoint, if it's "normal" it isn't "wrong", and if it's "wrong" it isn't "normal".

    So, a birth defect, lets just say any congenital disorder, something an individual is born with, outside of their own choice, isn't "wrong", by your thought process, it's "normal". So if it's normal, it isn't a defect, and they shouldn't have special treatment in society, they shouldn't get different nomenclatures, they are just normal, right?
    So that means they ought to have the same fundamental civil rights as every other person, correct?


    You can be not normal and still not "defective". As mentioned multiple times, left-handedness is not "normal" in nearly the same percentage of births. It's different, not wrong or defective. Just like people with green eyes, instead of blue or brown, are not defects.

    ... Or abnormally tall people are not "defective". Your height is not normal, yet you were not born "wrong". However, you were born to troll.

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    • Vedubin01
      R3V Elite
      • Jun 2006
      • 5852

      #182
      Originally posted by Kershaw

      Originally posted by Kershaw
      OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you know something about normative behaviors, sociology and homosexuality that I don't (highly unlikely though.)

      please explain to me several things. please give scientific definitions and references when applicable.

      1. what is normal behavior in humans? please define what constitutes normal behavior.
      1a. what is sexually normal for humans, specifically?
      1b. how does homosexuality fall in normal or abnormal behaviors?

      2. how many species on earth have members that display homosexual behaviors?
      2a. do any of these species mate for life?
      2b. do any of these species exhibit the same lesbian, gay, bisexual tendencies that humans do?
      2c. would homosexuality in animals be blamed on upbringing, environment, or a want to be different?

      To answer your question 1, 1a, 1b... basically what defines normal... normal is dictated by the majority.

      Number 2 is such a baited question. The answer is yes there are members other species. IF you know the true answer to how many... Ill call you god!

      The species that mate for life, mate for life but I dont think so with their homosexual partner. Chimpanzees have shown this behavior.

      It could be blamed on the environment as it was chemical reactions and or temperatures (Environment)that lead to the formation of DNA in the animal that once born showed these behaviors.



      Kershaw, if you are gay I don't care. I was just playing! Hence the smiley face you forgot to quote.
      Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

      Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

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      • frankenbeemer
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2009
        • 2260

        #183
        Originally posted by Kershaw
        what a concise sentence of complete bullshit.

        please expand on what "accurate average" entails in regards to human behavior.
        I think it means to average something accurately. I don't know. I don't know what you mean either, but I am interested, and I'm not here to prove anything, just curious.
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        Originally posted by JinormusJ
        Don't buy an e30

        They're stupid
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        • Farbin Kaiber
          Lil' Puppet
          • Jul 2007
          • 29502

          #184
          Rx8drivur, it was a random string of words I pulled out of my ass.

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          • Vedubin01
            R3V Elite
            • Jun 2006
            • 5852

            #185
            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
            Rx8drivur, it was a random string of words I pulled out of my ass.
            No homo?
            Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

            Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

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            • frankenbeemer
              R3VLimited
              • Sep 2009
              • 2260

              #186
              I'm obviously missing something. Why is the government involved in marriage at all? Why should my rights be any different if I want to marry my dog?
              sigpic
              Originally posted by JinormusJ
              Don't buy an e30

              They're stupid
              1989 325is Raged on then sold.
              1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
              1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
              1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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              • Farbin Kaiber
                Lil' Puppet
                • Jul 2007
                • 29502

                #187
                Originally posted by Vedubin01
                No homo?
                Nope, it would have been if I put the words in my ass.

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                • rwh11385
                  lance_entities
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 18403

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Vedubin01
                  To answer your question 1, 1a, 1b... basically what defines normal... normal is dictated by the majority.

                  Number 2 is such a baited question. The answer is yes there are members other species. IF you know the true answer to how many... Ill call you god!

                  The species that mate for life, mate for life but I dont think so with their homosexual partner. Chimpanzees have shown this behavior.

                  It could be blamed on the environment as it was chemical reactions and or temperatures (Environment)that lead to the formation of DNA in the animal that once born showed these behaviors.



                  Kershaw, if you are gay I don't care. I was just playing! Hence the smiley face you forgot to quote.
                  So by your "logic", men are normal and women are not. And by definition, minorities are not normal.

                  I think some people over in Europe had a Solution for homosexuality and minorities that you might enjoy... but I don't think it's right.

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                  • Vedubin01
                    R3V Elite
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 5852

                    #189
                    Originally posted by frankenbeemer
                    I'm obviously missing something. Why is the government involved in marriage at all? Why should my rights be any different if I want to marry my dog?
                    Because you are taxed based off your status.
                    Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

                    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

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                    • Jand3rson
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37587

                      #190
                      This thread is gay.

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                      • rwh11385
                        lance_entities
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18403

                        #191
                        Originally posted by frankenbeemer
                        Why is the government involved in marriage at all?
                        Good question. Probably because even though the nation is proud of its "separation of church and state", there's a lot of religious people who seek to oppress others through legislation.

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                        • F34R
                          sLaughter
                          • May 2009
                          • 12390

                          #192
                          Why is there so many members on here that think being a homosexual is normal? Dick in a mans ass does reproduce, but I guess the same goes for when I let a load loose in a girls face. Same sex marriage does not mean a damn thing, they will never have families that were started in a bedroom together.

                          Time to stir the pot ;)

                          Genesis 2:18-25

                          18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

                          19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.

                          But for Adam[a] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[b] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[c] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

                          23 The man said,

                          “This is now bone of my bones
                          and flesh of my flesh;
                          she shall be called ‘woman,’
                          for she was taken out of man. ”
                          24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

                          25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

                          Farbin fighting the retarded noobs all alone like a boss.
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                          • Farbin Kaiber
                            Lil' Puppet
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 29502

                            #193
                            Originally posted by F34R
                            Farbin fighting the retarded noobs all alone like a boss.
                            If it wasn't so narcissistic, that would be my new sig.

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                            • Vedubin01
                              R3V Elite
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 5852

                              #194
                              Originally posted by rwh11385
                              So by your "logic", men are normal and women are not. And by definition, minorities are not normal.

                              I think some people over in Europe had a Solution for homosexuality and minorities that you might enjoy... but I don't think it's right.
                              don't take it to such an extent. Categorize men to men and women to women. Since you are comparing same sex. (how many men have sex with other men vs. men having sex with women) etc...

                              And to an extent yes minorities are not normal. ex. it is not normal to find a Cuban in Alaska. It happens but not "normal"
                              Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

                              Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

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                              • frankenbeemer
                                R3VLimited
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 2260

                                #195
                                Originally posted by Vedubin01
                                Because you are taxed based off your status.
                                That seems more of a consequence than a reason. I was wondering what good it does society for the government to subsidize marriage if that is the case.
                                sigpic
                                Originally posted by JinormusJ
                                Don't buy an e30

                                They're stupid
                                1989 325is Raged on then sold.
                                1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                                1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
                                1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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