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  • slaterd
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    Why does religion always get brought into a political discussion. I'm 22, white, and have a bangin german girlfriend. I also have 2 of the most flamboyant gay friends EVER! The thing is though is they are some of the best friends I've ever had. I think people are really afraid of gay people because they think after a while of being around them they'll start to act gay too. Not true.
    The advantages of having a gay friend when you have a girlfriend:
    1.You don't have to listen to her complain all the time about "Sheela" at work everynight.
    2. Your gay friend and her will constantly give her makeovers and will make her look fucking HOT!
    3. You can get some fashion tips if you're stylishly retarded.
    4. A free home decorator is valuable.
    5. If you're single GAY FRIENDS MAKE THE BEST WINGMEN!!!!!!!!!
    I don't see what the big deal is about gay marriage. Let them be happy, it's their constitutional right to chase the ideals of happiness.

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  • FunfGan
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    Originally posted by Kershaw
    i wasnt surprised at his personal view. he may be a bigot, but that's his view.

    i am surprised he went on the record and said it though. that's not good business.
    If It was a muslim company, I'd have more respect for the person if he came out and said he was in support of killing innocent young women(i.e. Sharia Law) than if he tried to deny it. That is, respect for having the balls to say it in the face of adversity.

    Originally posted by rwh11385
    Dude, you refer to the Constitution without reading it. You make claims about the Bible without reading it. You really have no place to get upset.

    Besides, the point was that even if they mention a deity in some founding documents, the country never specified one - so why would we expect the one of some middle eastern sheep herders to be the foundation of our civil law?

    Actually, I have read the entire Bible and entire Constitution :) but thanks.

    Also, some quotes from from other founding fathers:


    Ben Rush: "The gospel of Jesus Christ prescribes the wisest rules for just conduct in every situation of life. Happy they who are enabled to obey them in all situations!"


    John Witherspoon: "Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy of his country."


    George Washington: "While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."

    John Adams: "Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."

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  • rwh11385
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    I said theistic. You really need to actually read shit before you try to post a witty picture. And because you continue to do that, I'm out of here.
    Dude, you refer to the Constitution without reading it. You make claims about the Bible without reading it. You really have no place to get upset.

    Besides, the point was that even if they mention a deity in some founding documents, the country never specified one - so why would we expect the one of some middle eastern sheep herders to be the foundation of our civil law?

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  • Kershaw
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    i wasnt surprised at his personal view. he may be a bigot, but that's his view.

    i am surprised he went on the record and said it though. that's not good business.

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  • FunfGan
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    Originally posted by Kershaw
    I said theistic. You really need to actually read shit before you try to post a witty picture. And because you continue to do that, I'm out of here.

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  • Eric
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  • Kershaw
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    And although this country has many seemingly theistic elements in its Constitution and laws, the fact that I don't necessarily agree with homosexuality, there is nothing that explicitly denies that freedom from a political perspective.

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  • frankenbeemer
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    I'm reasonably convinced there were at least two in the approximately one hundred (statistics would indicate about ten, I wonder who the other eight were) sailors I served with on SSN592. They seemed trustworthy enough for me.

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  • FunfGan
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    ^I was wondering where you'd been.

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  • cale
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    veteran's disability
    Because we shouldn't trust queers in the military

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  • frankenbeemer
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    I was looking for this earlier, thanks to kronus, here is a list of marriage rights as he linked in an earlier post. Which of these rights should not be allowed for same sex couples and why?


    Right to benefits while married:
    employment assistance and transitional services for spouses of members being separated from military service; continued commissary privileges
    per diem payment to spouse for federal civil service employees when relocating
    Indian Health Service care for spouses of Native Americans (in some circumstances)
    sponsor husband/wife for immigration benefits
    Larger benefits under some programs if married, including:
    veteran's disability
    Supplemental Security Income
    disability payments for federal employees
    Medicaid
    property tax exemption for homes of totally disabled veterans
    income tax deductions, credits, rates exemption, and estimates
    wages of an employee working for one's spouse are exempt from federal unemployment tax[3]
    Joint and family-related rights:
    joint filing of bankruptcy permitted
    joint parenting rights, such as access to children's school records
    family visitation rights for the spouse and non-biological children, such as to visit a spouse in a hospital or prison
    next-of-kin status for emergency medical decisions or filing wrongful death claims
    custodial rights to children, shared property, child support, and alimony after divorce
    domestic violence intervention
    access to "family only" services, such as reduced rate memberships to clubs & organizations or residency in certain neighborhoods
    Preferential hiring for spouses of veterans in government jobs
    Tax-free transfer of property between spouses (including on death) and exemption from "due-on-sale" clauses.
    Special consideration to spouses of citizens and resident aliens
    Threats against spouses of various federal employees is a federal crime
    Right to continue living on land purchased from spouse by National Park Service when easement granted to spouse
    Court notice of probate proceedings
    Domestic violence protection orders
    Existing homestead lease continuation of rights
    Regulation of condominium sales to owner-occupants exemption
    Funeral and bereavement leave
    Joint adoption and foster care
    Joint tax filing
    Insurance licenses, coverage, eligibility, and benefits organization of mutual benefits society
    Legal status with stepchildren
    Making spousal medical decisions
    Spousal non-resident tuition deferential waiver
    Permission to make funeral arrangements for a deceased spouse, including burial or cremation
    Right of survivorship of custodial trust
    Right to change surname upon marriage
    Right to enter into prenuptial agreement
    Right to inheritance of property
    Spousal privilege in court cases (the marital confidences privilege and the spousal testimonial privilege)
    For those divorced or widowed, the right to many of ex- or late spouse's benefits, including:
    Social Security pension
    veteran's pensions, indemnity compensation for service-connected deaths, medical care, and nursing home care, right to burial in veterans' cemeteries, educational assistance, and housing
    survivor benefits for federal employees
    survivor benefits for spouses of longshoremen, harbor workers, railroad workers
    additional benefits to spouses of coal miners who die of black lung disease
    $100,000 to spouse of any public safety officer killed in the line of duty
    continuation of employer-sponsored health benefits
    renewal and termination rights to spouse's copyrights on death of spouse
    continued water rights of spouse in some circumstances
    payment of wages and workers compensation benefits after worker death
    making, revoking, and objecting to post-mortem anatomical gifts

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  • frankenbeemer
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    Originally posted by kronus
    You're missing the point. After a lot of years of segregation (and also the whole apartheid thing in South Africa) and generally shitty times, "separate but equal" has come to be know as a pretty stupid idea that doesn't work in any situation it's applied to.
    Hooray for unisex bathrooms! Wait, where are the urinals?

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  • frankenbeemer
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    Originally posted by mrsleeve
    Ummm mar1t1me quoting Jefferson WTF he gives me shit when I quote Jefferson most of the time
    I can believe that. It does seem applicable to the situation here, thanks for the full quote. I love Jefferson, warts and all.

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  • mrsleeve
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    Originally posted by frankenbeemer
    Personally, I'm for polygyny. Why shouldn't the government recognize this kind of marriage? Why discriminate against 3 or more consenting adults who want to form a union? How would that "break my leg or pick my pocket"? Love that quote mar1t1me, thanks.
    Ummm mar1t1me quoting Jefferson WTF he gives me shit when I quote Jefferson most of the time


    here is the full quote

    The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.- Thomas Jefferson

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  • frankenbeemer
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    Personally, I'm for polygyny. Why shouldn't the government recognize this kind of marriage? Why discriminate against 3 or more consenting adults who want to form a union? How would that "break my leg or pick my pocket"? Love that quote mar1t1me, thanks.

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