Chick-fil-a

[Farbin Kaiber]

Now another pointless argument. The questions about refusing service to people not wearing shirt or shoes was a precursor to an argument about why they are allowed to do so. You asked if they were unconstitutional, which begged to differentiate why that is fine but discriminating against consumers based on protected minority status was not.

You actually made more sense when you were high all the time.

What do I need to do to get being tall on this Protected Minority status, should I file a ADA lawsuit to get doorways to be legislated taller, or urinals to be high enough that I don't pee on top of them, or enough legroom in movie theaters, or tables at public restaurants high enough to fit under?


You know what, I fucking deal with it, I've learned that that's the way the world is setup, with the majority in mind when things are designed, and since I'm a minority, I don't go chasing businesses to change their standards to suit my uniqueness.

Sorry I dont buy that.

You are right, it might be where they put their tongue.

[Turf1600]

Sorry I dont buy that

So you can be gay? You can watch gay porn, fap to dudes, have wet dreams about bulgy cops and check out dudes walking by? Did you have to choose to like women? Did you have to overcome your meat-gazing habit and instead focus on vagina? I highly doubt it - but I'll eat my words if you can walk out the door and truly favor dong at the drop of a hat.

[Turf1600]

What do I need to do to get being tall on this Protected Minority status, should I file a ADA lawsuit to get doorways to be legislated taller, or urinals to be high enough that I don't pee on top of them, or enough legroom in movie theaters, or tables at public restaurants high enough to fit under?

You know what, I fucking deal with it, I've learned that that's the way the world is setup, with the majority in mind when things are designed, and since I'm a minority, I don't go chasing businesses to change their standards to suit my uniqueness.
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I don't think it's fair to view mildly inconvenient construction standards as prejudice. No one said "Fuck that guy - I'm building tiny doors".

[Farbin Kaiber]

The whole world is built against how i was born, i didn't choose this!!!!!

AND, Chick-Fil-A didn't say FUCK GAY PEOPLE, they just don't agree with it.

[Good & Tight]

They can believe whatever they want, but don't expect people not to protest or boycott them. That's the people's right, especially in response to an unpopular stance about limiting people's civil rights.

They can boycott/protest all they want, do you honestly think it will make a difference for people that don't care or haven't a clue?

If I was heading into CFL and there was protesters with signs and all, still wouldn't stop me from getting my spicy chicken with pepper jack cheese and a large vanilla shake.

[mar1t1me]

Sorry I dont buy that.

Do you believe that most fat people are fat because of genetics? I don't. When I was in school, people rode bikes or walked to school, and even for the bus riders, there was PE, and it wasn't an option. There were maybe, out of 200 kids, one or two that were fat. Now, the fat kids are in an ever increasing majority... But we had a couple of kids that were also "different". No one used the terms gay or lesbian then, you just only ever saw them with people of the same sex. The percentages of GLBT population haven't swelled since then like it should have, if it was just a choice to be made in an already promiscuous and relatively anonymous society.

My children come from the same two parents so they are genetically similar, however, their temperaments are different as night and day, and were so from very early ages. Where does that come from? Some people are just "different". Many are hetero, but the fact that time and time again, homosexuality arises even in cultures that try to suppress it with excommunication and possibly the death penalty, should tell you it's a little more complicated than just waking up one morning and not wanting to put your dick into vaginas any more.

[rwh11385]

They can boycott/protest all they want, do you honestly think it will make a difference for people that don't care or haven't a clue?

If I was heading into CFL and there was protesters with signs and all, still wouldn't stop me from getting my spicy chicken with pepper jack cheese and a large vanilla shake.

The tide of support for same-sex marriage is rising, and yes - if you have paid attention to the news at all, it does matter or CFA wouldn't have backstepped their position. And none of this controversy would be there if it didn't matter. But people care if others want to poop on other's civil rights - even if bigots want to write it off as self-righteousness.

People should just say, "they made their stand and now have to deal with it."

But there's people like Farbin who want to protect prejudice from social recoil.

[CorvallisBMW]

Did you have to overcome your meat-gazing habit and instead focus on vagina? I highly doubt it - but I'll eat my words if you can walk out the door and truly favor dong at the drop of a hat.

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!

[rwh11385]

Do you believe that most fat people are fat because of genetics? I don't. When I was in school, people rode bikes or walked to school, and even for the bus riders, there was PE, and it wasn't an option. There were maybe, out of 200 kids, one or two that were fat. Now, the fat kids are in an ever increasing majority... But we had a couple of kids that were also "different". No one used the terms gay or lesbian then, you just only ever saw them with people of the same sex. The percentages of GLBT population haven't swelled since then like it should have, if it was just a choice to be made in an already promiscuous and relatively anonymous society.

My children come from the same two parents so they are genetically similar, however, their temperaments are different as night and day, and were so from very early ages. Where does that come from? Some people are just "different". Many are hetero, but the fact that time and time again, homosexuality arises even in cultures that try to suppress it with excommunication and possibly the death penalty, should tell you it's a little more complicated than just waking up one morning and not wanting to put your dick into vaginas any more.

Well said.

The truth is people always judged without understanding, and now we know more and stop treating it as much as an illness or defect, so we can learn the differences we ignored previously. Stuff like the digit ratio shows that hormones in the womb influence sexuality rate, as well as both orientation behavior / demeanor. Just because the ignorant think people are just acting or can decide to change you they are, it doesn't mean that is accurate.

[2761377]

if you have paid attention to the news at all, it does matter or CFA wouldn't have backstepped their position.

please explain how they have 'backstepped'- the only semi-relational comment i can find is that CFA, as of 19 July, will no longer engage in the public discourse over same-sex 'marriage'. they did not commit to stopping the offensive donations. which, by the way, the LGBT community has been stewing about for years only now finding an excuse to set up a political clamor.

let people protest- it won't hurt CFA's base at all. some commentators are predicting backlash against the protest. we'll see.

private citizens may protest, but the threatened zoning refusal in Chicago is ripe for lawsuit- abidging first amendments rights and so on.

Thomas Jefferson said-

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

this quote is particularly instructive in that it implies Jefferson's belief in one god, which has been questioned here before.

[rwh11385]

What do I need to do to get being tall on this Protected Minority status, should I file a ADA lawsuit to get doorways to be legislated taller, or urinals to be high enough that I don't pee on top of them, or enough legroom in movie theaters, or tables at public restaurants high enough to fit under?


You know what, I fucking deal with it, I've learned that that's the way the world is setup, with the majority in mind when things are designed, and since I'm a minority, I don't go chasing businesses to change their standards to suit my uniqueness.

I don't think it's fair to view mildly inconvenient construction standards as prejudice. No one said "Fuck that guy - I'm building tiny doors".

Dude, are you again so ridiculous to equate being uncomfortable in a seat or ducking for a doorway to the fundamental right of being able to marry?

Public places and businesses are to made reasonable accommodations - like height-adjustable desks / chairs at work, but it's not like you are prevented from entering establishments because you have to stoop under the door frame. And like Turf said, it's not like they designed or intentionally worked against you. It's not like someone is plotting on how to limit you, and it's also not like you are disabled.

Loosely calling people whiny for wanting civil rights is again pretty weak.

[rwh11385]

please explain how they have 'backstepped'- the only semi-relational comment i can find is that CFA, as of 19 July, will no longer engage in the public discourse over same-sex 'marriage'. they did not commit to stopping the offensive donations. which, by the way, the LGBT community has been stewing about for years only now finding an excuse to set up a political clamor.

let people protest- it won't hurt CFA's base at all. some commentators are predicting backlash against the protest. we'll see.

private citizens may protest, but the threatened zoning refusal in Chicago is ripe for lawsuit- abidging first amendments rights and so on.

Thomas Jefferson said-


this quote is particularly instructive in that it implies Jefferson's belief in one god, which has been questioned here before.

They no longer are going to be doing something that they have done = backstep. They said they knew it wouldn't be popular but oh well, then said OH SHIT.

Maybe in the South that is fully of Evangelicals and Blue Laws, but places like Chicago and others, there's a lot of LGBT. I know bigotry might have strong roots in the South and Middle America, but over time there are fewer and fewer people who are against same-sex marriage and more for it... which will mean a decreasing base.

[Farbin Kaiber]

It's a basic human right.

See Article 2, and Article 5 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights from the UN.

Also see Article 27, whereby I am limited to partake, and participate in many activities designed for individuals of smaller stature.

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[Farbin Kaiber]

I bet her girlfriend took the picture.