When CCW saves peoples lives thread.

[cale]

Ah sorry it slipped my mind, you're expecting the next pres to be a murderous tyrant. I forgot you guys have been preparing for that for the last 200 years. Best of luck.

[mrsleeve]

Nope not in the least. That is in fact one of the very reasons the Constitution is our highest law of the land and why we have protections to keep and bare arms. Keeps the oh so benevolent govt from getting to uppity.

Hows that old saying go???

Those who beat their swords into plowshares, usually end up plowing for those who didn't - Ben Franklin IIRC

[mrsleeve]

not quite CCW but a home invasion A woman uses a .38 to save her self and her 2 young children from a long time offender arrested 6 times in the last 4 years that had broken into the home. Too bad the shit bag survived his wounds

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

[iamsam]

Here's one that happened recently.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/356100/3/Man-flourishing-gun-is-shot-arrested-in-north-city

Cliffs:

dude #1 threatens a group of people w/ gun
dude#2 in said group pulls gun and shoots dude #1 in arm
dude#1 runs and then is arrested after he calls police to help him
dude#2 has CCW and is not detained

[frankenbeemer]

Not CCW, but still an example of lawful self defense with an interesting observation about magazine capacity.

[cale]

Trying to use a woman's terrible shooting skills to necessitate large capacity magazines is lol. She shot 6 rounds at point blank range and couldn't drop him. The number of rounds wasn't the issue, her being incompetent is.

[frankenbeemer]

Trying to use a woman's terrible shooting skills to necessitate large capacity magazines is lol. She shot 6 rounds at point blank range and couldn't drop him. The number of rounds wasn't the issue, her being incompetent is.

There's more to it than that.

[cale]

I only watched the first 3/4 of it as I was on my way to work, but that was the direction it was being sold as. Whatever the case may be, seems as though they're grasping at straws.

[frankenbeemer]

I only watched the first 3/4 of it as I was on my way to work, but that was the direction it was being sold as. Whatever the case may be, seems as though they're grasping at straws.

They are not "grasping at straws", they are including the very real possibility that she could have been in a situation with more than one assailant.

[cale]

If you need more than 6 rounds to drop an individual that close and still fail, the issue isn't a lack of rounds (which would've been resolve with a higher capacity pistol which is already legal), it's an incompetent owner. By that argument to protect ones house sufficiently you're going to need a 10 round pistol with an extra mag for each additional criminal. I for one don't want to be that useless shooters neighbor. IMO this is just a terrible attempt to stop a terrible law, it's like a playground fight over a cookie. Proper training to the point of proficiency would be much more beneficial than overcoming incompetence with spray and pray shooting.

Sleeve/vdubin wanna chime in here?

[frankenbeemer]

Tell that to South Carolina State Trooper Mark Coates. The issue isn't marksmanship.

[mrsleeve]

Trying to use a woman's terrible shooting skills to necessitate large capacity magazines is lol. She shot 6 rounds at point blank range and couldn't drop him. The number of rounds wasn't the issue, her being incompetent is.

yes 5 out of 6 center mass is poor shot placement and he is still alive for a 38 special at point blank is odd Big SOB is big. yeah should have shot him in the head, but still you shoot till the threat stops, and in this case if there had been more then one attacker then she would have been fucked. She was very new to the firearm thing, and was hiding in a fucking attic with her 2 children, when dude forces his way in and is basically right on top of them. Hell my carry guns only hold 7 or 8 with one in the hole............ But then again I carry a 45 most of the time not a 38.

Milwaukee: 1/9/13
Man with knife tries to rob Quicky Mart, owner with guns trumps man with knife. No shots fired instance of Self Defense with a hand gun, most things like these go unreported when it happens on the street.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50415386/ns/local_news-milwaukee_wi/t/clerk-gun-stops-knife-wielding-robber/

Tallahassee 1/2/13
Man with cattle prod tries to rob quicky mart. clerk is zapped a few times and manages to pull out his gun. Would be rancher say OH FUCK a FIREARM and abandons the attack and runs away. Again a No shots fired instance of Self Defense with a firearm.

http://qctimes.com/news/weird-news/clerk-s-gun-trumps-thief-s-cattle-prod/article_99b3d394-5b24-11e2-88e2-001a4bcf887a.html?cid=print

[frankenbeemer]

yes 5 out of 6 center mass and he is still alive for a 38 special at point blank is poor shooting .

Are you saying she is not incompetent?

[mrsleeve]

I say not bad shooting all things considered, hence why I edited that while you were responding to it, because I noticed it read like thats what I was implying

[frankenbeemer]

I say not bad shooting all things considered, hence why I edited that while you were responding to it, because I noticed it read like thats what I was implying

I was being facetious, I saw the emoticon before I replied. For the record: I appreciate your efforts in support of the second amendment. A sincere thank you.