When CCW saves peoples lives thread.

[einhander]

I'm well aware of the 8th amendment, thank you very much. I guess it's crazy of me to call to question the validity of an amendment, especially in our current state of affairs. All of the millions of dollars being spent to attack the 2nd without addressing the root of the issue. Criminals are not afraid of our lenient punishments, in fact many of them find the accommodations better and easier than life in the real world. So I'll still stand by my assertion that if the penalty for rape is castration (or worse) and the penalty for 1st degree murder is the death, we'd have less of it. As for people not thinking about the consequences...well if these punishments are made very clear from an early age, people would be forced to contemplate their actions wouldn't they?

Okay, Mullah Parsies. Let's make society as bad as the criminals.

Not only does your recipe not work (see studies referenced earlier), but it de-evolves the rest of society to a darker past.

What we should do is keep non-violent offenders and drug users out of prisons and use the extra space and saved funds to enhance sentences: 40 year minimum for rape, 25 years minimum for grand theft, 20 years minimum for insider trading, life sentence for murder.

We don't need to turn into Afghanistan.

[mrsleeve]

I love you Farbin LOL


NO homo

[ParsedOut]

Okay, Mullah Parsies. Let's make society as bad as the criminals.

Not only does your recipe not work (see studies referenced earlier), but it de-evolves the rest of society to a darker past.

What we should do is keep non-violent offenders and drug users out of prisons and use the extra space and saved funds to enhance sentences: 40 year minimum for rape, 25 years minimum for grand theft, 20 years minimum for insider trading, life sentence for murder.

We don't need to turn into Afghanistan.

Hey, look at that...another thing we disagree on. Like I said, the eye for an eye way of justice is fraught with pitfalls as is your solution. I'd like to see states draw their own conclusions instead of nothing happening at all due to a completely ineffective national government.

[einhander]

Hey, look at that...another thing we disagree on. Like I said, the eye for an eye way of justice is fraught with pitfalls as is your solution. I'd like to see states draw their own conclusions instead of nothing happening at all due to a completely ineffective national government.

Well...keep dreaming in ineffective policy land then.

At least with my solution you're keeping violent criminals off the streets. That's enough to put a dent in crime rates in most places.

[Vedubin01]

25 years minimum for grand theft

Florida

"In general, any property taken that carries a value of more than $300 can be considered grand theft in certain circumstances



Good luck with that, you just filled every prison in the country for 25 years! Your plan rocks! Einhander for President!

[einhander]

Is every person in the country in Florida?

[einhander]

Hey Parsies, here you go. Seems like you and Sharia loving retrogrades enjoy harsh martial punishment also. I knew you had a lot in common! Maybe you should move there!

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-wn-brunei-sharia-law-20140501,0,6135087.story#axzz30uVgWpTe

The sultan of oil-rich Brunei on Thursday announced the start of a new criminal code based on sharia law that will eventually prescribe punishments that include amputation and stoning, the first of Southeast Asia's predominantly Muslim countries to impose the harsh form of Islamic law.

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la...#ixzz30uWgxsxB

[ParsedOut]

Hey Parsies, here you go. Seems like you and Sharia loving retrogrades enjoy harsh martial punishment also. I knew you had a lot in common! Maybe you should move there!

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la...#axzz30uVgWpTe

You know as well as I that death by stoning for extramarital or gay sex (much less anything) is not something I believe in. I'm not going to bite this time, move along little man...

[einhander]

Haha, well played, sir.

[mrsleeve]

51 year Old Gma in detroit fends off 2 attackers after being shot 3 times. The 2 men were arrested when they went to the hospital to receive treatment for gunshot wounds

http://m.clickondetroit.com/news/detroit-woman-wounded-in-shootout-with-wouldbe-robbers/25840016

[ParsedOut]

Those poor attackers, it hurts my heart that they were shot like that! They were probably just having a string of bad luck and needed some money for food. That old lady shouldn't be allowed to defend herself, instead she should be forced to give to those with less luck.

Shame...absolute shame.

[einhander]

Still upset I shat all over your daddy's myth?

Good for the old bird. If all gun owners simply protected their property rather than trying to be super vigilante troublemakers, gun ownership wouldn't be such a contentious issue.

[Farbin Kaiber]

^Sounds a bit flip-floppy there einhorn.

[ParsedOut]

Still upset I shat all over your daddy's myth?

Good for the old bird. If all gun owners simply protected their property rather than trying to be super vigilante troublemakers, gun ownership wouldn't be such a contentious issue.

Don't believe I was responding to you.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Good for the old bird. If all gun owners simply protected their property rather than trying to be super vigilante troublemakers, gun ownership wouldn't be such a contentious issue.

Ok, Vigilante's are people outside of law enforcers who fight crime, correct?

So I don't see how Vigilante's are troublemakers.

Also I don't see these gun owner's who are out fighting crime that you speak of.


Still love you man, but common now. More gun owners are concerned with their own self preservation than being vigilante's. You know that.