That evil costco

[nando]

Oh wow since I didn't read the links, I assumed it was another posting of the people in bellingham wa. Bitching about canadians pluging up their stores. And the side bar topic was our potus. Support and the thread was off track form the get go as is the norm for here :)

yeah, I was wondering what you were talking about. lol

The people here can be really, really stupid sometimes. What an ugly thing to be known for.

also, fuck Facebook.

[InuFaye]

If Canadians don't shop at Costco how can they have enough butterscotch pudding to have the royal wedding?

[slammin.e28]

If Canadians don't shop at Costco how can they have enough butterscotch pudding to have the royal wedding?

Canadians don't have weddings. It's tool cold.

[nando]

If Canadians don't shop at Costco how can they have enough butterscotch pudding to have the royal wedding?

that must be an east coast thing

[z31maniac]

the morons running this place decided it was a good idea to block any stores larger than 90,000 square feet, so all the stores are too small (a normal costco is 160,000 square feet).

Wait, you mean a town would purposefully legislate discriminatory policies against a business they don't like? :p

Guaranteed that was aimed at Wal-Mart/Sams' Club.

[nando]

hah, that's why they bannned stores larger than 90,000 square feet. They tried to keep walmart out. Except 90,000 square feet is too small. So now the town is littered with sub 90k stores that are empty and nowhere to build a big enough walmart/costco/fred meyer. at least not without destroying more wetlands.

Best part is, small businesses increased after Walmart came here.

at least the current mayor has a brain:

http://www.piersystem.com/go/doc/1264/1514507/

[z31maniac]

I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart, the wife occasionally grabs a few things there. I haven't been in one in well over a year.

If you can imagine the people you see at a Supercenter up there, imagine what it's like down here!

[nando]

yeah. I don't mind going once in a while for oil and stuff, mostly because the people are hilarious. But I don't take the E30 there. :p

[InuFaye]

Canadians don't have weddings. It's tool cold.

No its customary that when they getting married, the man rips off the brides arm and shoves it way up his own ass.

[e30e]

Oh wow since I didn't read the links, I assumed it was another posting of the people in bellingham wa. Bitching about canadians pluging up their stores. And the side bar topic was our potus. Support and the thread was off track form the get go as is the norm for here :)

Come on, me posting about something in Wa and about Canadians.....I don't know either those kinds of people. Besides Mexicans can't afford to shop at our Costcos (sarcasm).

[Cliche Guevara]

he supports the exact same things that socialist leaders do which in turn is slowing making this country into a socialist one. take a look at obamacare for instance.

The mean the model originally proposed by Republicans in which everyone is mandated to buy insurance from private companies. Do you even know what socialism is?

[ethrtyiS]

The mean the model originally proposed by Republicans in which everyone is mandated to buy insurance from private companies. Do you even know what socialism is?

first off, let me start off by saying that obama was in fact a member of the socialist new party in the 90s... now, to better understand socialism, let me inform you... one of socialism’s central tenets is demonization of the wealthy. that sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it? he plays the game of class warfare like no politician in history. his entire agenda is about targeting, demonizing, denigrating and punishing the rich; for obama hunting the rich is a sport.

another big tenet of socialism is redistribution of wealth, accomplished in several ways. first, raise taxes to outlandish levels. a socialist thinks what’s yours, belongs to the state. if obama has his way we’ll all be paying tax rates in the range of 70% or higher, while losing all deductions. his answer for every problem is taxes. every single speech that he gives is about taxes. every state of the union is about taxes. obama’s hobby is raising taxes.

i can go on and on and on. but i would rather not as it's a bit late now.

[Cliche Guevara]

first off, let me start off by saying that obama was in fact a member of the socialist new party in the 90s... now, to better understand socialism, let me inform you... one of socialism’s central tenets is demonization of the wealthy. that sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it? he plays the game of class warfare like no politician in history. his entire agenda is about targeting, demonizing, denigrating and punishing the rich; for obama hunting the rich is a sport.

another big tenet of socialism is redistribution of wealth, accomplished in several ways. first, raise taxes to outlandish levels. a socialist thinks what’s yours, belongs to the state. if obama has his way we’ll all be paying tax rates in the range of 70% or higher, while losing all deductions. his answer for every problem is taxes. every single speech that he gives is about taxes. every state of the union is about taxes. obama’s hobby is raising taxes.

This is one of the problems with the American public, their understanding of socialism has become so ridiculously convoluted that it makes having an actual conversation about it damned near impossible. You talk about socialism like it's a religion (using the same retarded talking points they use on Fox) but make little mention of actual policy. Let's get a few things straight here, socialism is an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the government. That is the only thing central to socialism and that alone makes someone a socialist. The right has done a brilliant job of making uncontroversial things like a progressive tax code seem radical. It's not, and advocating for it does not make you a socialist. Socialism isn't about demonizing the rich any more than capitalism is about demonizing the poor. What's more, in the same way that you can be a moderate capitalist, you can be a moderate socialist or advocate for a few select policies that are socialistic in nature without signing on to the whole deal. It isn't an all-or-nothing ideology. I'm sure it's wonderfully simple living in your black and white world, but it makes it impossible for you to have a reasonable understanding of an issue.

i can go on and on and on.

No, you can't. You cannot name a single socialist policy Obama has put in place as President.

As for his being a member of the Socialist New Party, I've been trying for some time now to get an independent assessment of who they were and what they stood for, but all I can get are right wing blogs going off about how evil socialism is. Either way, I don't give a shit about what Obama did or supposedly believed in the '90s, what's important is what he's doing as president.

[gwb72tii]

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/54868/shart-week/

[ethrtyiS]

This is one of the problems with the American public, their understanding of socialism has become so ridiculously convoluted that it makes having an actual conversation about it damned near impossible. You talk about socialism like it's a religion (using the same retarded talking points they use on Fox) but make little mention of actual policy. Let's get a few things straight here, socialism is an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the government. That is the only thing central to socialism and that alone makes someone a socialist. The right has done a brilliant job of making uncontroversial things like a progressive tax code seem radical. It's not, and advocating for it does not make you a socialist. Socialism isn't about demonizing the rich any more than capitalism is about demonizing the poor. What's more, in the same way that you can be a moderate capitalist, you can be a moderate socialist or advocate for a few select policies that are socialistic in nature without signing on to the whole deal. It isn't an all-or-nothing ideology. I'm sure it's wonderfully simple living in your black and white world, but it makes it impossible for you to have a reasonable understanding of an issue.


No, you can't. You cannot name a single socialist policy Obama has put in place as President.

As for his being a member of the Socialist New Party, I've been trying for some time now to get an independent assessment of who they were and what they stood for, but all I can get are right wing blogs going off about how evil socialism is. Either way, I don't give a shit about what Obama did or supposedly believed in the '90s, what's important is what he's doing as president.

let me continue then... obama has added over $5 trillion to the national debt in only three years (primarily to buy votes) in the form of stimulus, green energy “investment,” entitlements, food stamps, supporting illegal immigrants, free cell phones, and "free" healthcare. that debt overwhelms the system and cripples the economy. he is enslaving our children and grandchildren to big government and big taxes for years to come. does this not sound familiar? he is busy overwhelming the system right now. socialism is assured when a majority of citizens become dependent on big government and are “bribed” to keep voting for the candidates that promise to keep the goodies and bribes coming. this also sounds familiar.

or, government can just pass so many new rules and regulations that it’s impossible to do business anymore, thereby wiping out small business, jobs, and the u.s. economy. for all intents and purposes, we become slaves and our master is the epa or national labor relations board. with business failing, we all become dependent on government jobs or entitlements to put food on the table. sound familiar? obama has enacted 60,000 new rules in only three years. a private company by the name of boeing was stopped by obama’s nlrb from opening a plant in a non-union state. this sure sounds like government control over the economy to me.

socialism is about government control. it doesn’t have to be a direct takeover. government can bail out wall street, banks, mortgage providers like fannie mae & freddie mac, insurance giants like aig, and automakers like gm & chrysler. the result is government control through intimidation and coercion. soon government is trying to demand student loans be forgiven, contraception be provided for free, people who don’t pay their mortgages be allowed to stay in their homes, and electric cars be manufactured, even if no one wants them. does this also sound familiar? socialists also violate private property rights. obama did that when he stole gm and chrysler from its investors and shareholders and awarded ownership to his auto union buddies. he’s doing it again by demanding private insurers provide free contraception.

socialists discredit the opposition. for example, obama had homeland security put out directives to law enforcement declaring libertarians, sonservatives, and tea partiers as possible domestic terrorists. socialists take away civil rights. obama extended and expanded the patriot act to listen to our calls and emails without warrants. he signed legislation to allow for indefinite detention of u.s. citizens without charges, and, his obamacare bill allows for the creation of a civilian defense force on u.s. soil that answers to…guess who? the president. socialists also want to control and censor the media. obama supports the fairness doctrine, which would cripple conservative talk radio. meanwhile his bailout of newspapers and ge, parent of nbc, cnbc and msnbc, allows government to manipulate and intimidate the media; and of course obama has hollywood under his thumb.

sorry but yes, obama is definitely a socialist. but he’s a stealth socialist. he believes in achieving his goals slowly, subtly. he believes in hiding and disguising his intentions. he believes in incremental success. he‘s smarter than any socialist we’ve ever seen. he understands you can’t destroy america by making it clear your intent is to destroy america. and you can’t be re-elected if voters can clearly see that you are a socialist. so what do you do? you bob and weave, lie and deceive…put on a $2500 suit and silk tie…smile at all times…kiss babies and hug middle americans…play with your dog bo…trot out your two sweet daughters…and talk about “fairness” a hundred times a day.

four years ago obama slipped up and said “i just want to spread the wealth around.” just a couple months ago he slipped up again, when an open microphone caught him telling the russian president to just be patient. “i’ve an election to win then i’ll have more flexibility.” this is the obama plan. a second term so he can finish off what he started. make 12 million illegal immigrants, disproportionate recipients of government programs all into voting citizens. ban all oil drilling and watch gas soar to unimagined heights. ban gun ownership. raise taxes to levels that will destroy entrepreneurship and starve his political opposition. make unions the most powerful force in the economy. intimidate big business into supporting his agenda. silence conservative talk radio. give our military secrets to the russians. without having to ever face another election, obama is free to be the real obama for the first time.

yourself, liberals, obama defenders, and even socialists are right about one thing... obama is no ordinary socialist. obama is a hybrid. he is a socialist/marxist/fascist/and corporatist all rolled into one. and that, my friends, is the deadliest breed america has ever seen.