Mike Rowe writes a letter to Mitt Romney

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  • Vedubin01
    R3V Elite
    • Jun 2006
    • 5852

    #1

    Mike Rowe writes a letter to Mitt Romney

    And, of course, all of it is true.



    In each case, I shared my theory that most of these “problems” were in fact symptoms of something more fundamental – a change in the way Americans viewed hard work and skilled labor. That’s the essence of what I’ve heard from the hundreds of men and women I’ve worked with on Dirty Jobs. Pig farmers, electricians, plumbers, bridge painters, jam makers, blacksmiths, brewers, coal miners, carpenters, crab fisherman, oil drillers…they all tell me the same thing over and over, again and again – our country has become emotionally disconnected from an essential part of our workforce. We are no longer impressed with cheap electricity, paved roads, and indoor plumbing. We take our infrastructure for granted, and the people who build it.

    Today, we can see the consequences of this disconnect in any number of areas, but none is more obvious than the growing skills gap. Even as unemployment remains sky high, a whole category of vital occupations has fallen out of favor, and companies struggle to find workers with the necessary skills. The causes seem clear. We have embraced a ridiculously narrow view of education. Any kind of training or study that does not come with a four-year degree is now deemed “alternative.” Many viable careers once aspired to are now seen as “vocational consolation prizes,” and many of the jobs this current administration has tried to “create” over the last four years are the same jobs that parents and teachers actively discourage kids from pursuing. (I always thought there something ill-fated about the promise of three million “shovel ready jobs” made to a society that no longer encourages people to pick up a shovel.)
    ......
    Certainly, we need more jobs, and you were clear about that in Tampa. But the Skills Gap proves that we need something else too. We need people who see opportunity where opportunity exists. We need enthusiasm for careers that have been overlooked and underappreciated by society at large. We need to have a really big national conversation about what we value in the workforce, and if I can be of help to you in that regard, I am at your service – assuming of course, you find yourself in a new address early next year.






    Evidently he wrote a similar letter to Obama 4 years ago and he never responded. According to Twitter, Romney's campaign already has reached out.

    ETA: Of course, part of the problem is that a lot of those jobs are union, and the union bosses will tell their members to vote in ways to benefit the union, not the workers.
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  • shiftbmw
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    • Oct 2005
    • 2012

    #2
    Nice to see someone side step the politics and speak candidly. It was well written and non-partisan.
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    • ainadude
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      • Apr 2008
      • 221

      #3
      My respect for Mike Rowe just grew ... on the basis of both letters.
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      • mrsleeve
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Mar 2005
        • 16385

        #4
        I big fan mr Rowe, and have been for a while now, I have eccoed his sentiments for a long time now. As a skiled tradesman in a couple of trades, have many a year with a shovel in my hand, I fully support every word.


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        • future rs
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          • Aug 2012
          • 514

          #5
          Originally posted by shiftbmw
          Nice to see someone side step the politics and speak candidly. It was well written and non-partisan.
          I truly appreciate the tone of that message. And feel that the non-partisan part is commendable.

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          • dirtysix
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            • Aug 2006
            • 806

            #6
            Originally posted by mrsleeve
            I big fan mr Rowe, and have been for a while now, I have eccoed his sentiments for a long time now. As a skiled tradesman in a couple of trades, have many a year with a shovel in my hand, I fully support every word.
            Tend to agree with this however, reminds of the old saying 'pay peanuts, get monkeys'.

            Skilled trades just aren't payed well enough. I know, I gave mine away.
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            • Vedubin01
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              • Jun 2006
              • 5852

              #7
              Originally posted by dirtysix
              Tend to agree with this however, reminds of the old saying 'pay peanuts, get monkeys'.

              Skilled trades just aren't payed well enough. I know, I gave mine away.


              electricians, plumbers, bridge painters, jam makers, blacksmiths, brewers, coal miners, carpenters, crab fisherman, oil drillers

              those jobs pay really well here in the states... just not many people want to be a plumber etc...
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              • dude8383
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                • Jan 2005
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                #8
                Excellent read, thanks for posting.
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                • PeteD
                  E30 Modder
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 982

                  #9
                  I can appreciate the letter. I also agree with the person who wrote:

                  "I think your project has a better chance of success if you leave partisan politics out of it. You showed more than a bit of ego with your line about not hearing back from President Obama. Yes the first four years are the hardest so he may have had some more critical things on his plate you think?
                  Good Luck with your project.
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                  Sure any coverage is good, but he has enough of a network to launch his vision without going this route. Though, he only raised over 1MM in 4 years for scholarships, so maybe he isn't leveraging his network enough - I'd have to look more into it to really comment.

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                  • Q5Quint
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 725

                    #10
                    I taught classes and workshops for the local community college for a while...

                    Those guys, the real plumbers and real electricians and real builders, are chomping at the bit to actually DO something. There are plenty of people out there that want to put in a honest days work for a honest days pay.... problem is that everyone else is broke or that nobody is building houses anymore.

                    It is a shame too~ I had to stop offering to teach because I made more money laying bricks (literally... $20 under the table an hour)

                    Most of my friends around me now went to college~ but we are all in the construction industry. Most of us were making the same amount before school as we are after~ around $20 an hour...and now we have an extra $250 a month student loan to pay back because everyone told us we 'needed that piece of paper' to get a good job. Nobody told us that we already had a good job. Not a good deal but it was a lot of fun I guess?

                    I kind of take it as a personal goal to get as many kids to drop out of school as I can... and work a real job for a semester or two... then start back with a view of what the real world is about. Interestingly enough the real world actually is about fraternities and keg parties, getting money and bitches etc.

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                    • evandael
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2881

                      #11
                      ^ I will most likely get a job as a tradesmen of some sort, and I do not see that as underemployment. I like to make things. I don't mind sweating at work. but a lot of people deem themselves above those kinds of jobs.

                      my only regret is that I didn't start sooner, and didn't either a) have fun in college or b) make better decisions about my studies (I got great marks but in the wrong types of classes)

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                      • Kershaw
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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 11822

                        #12
                        if you paid attention and truly learned in college, then it is not wasted. im sorry you feel that increasing your understanding of the world was not worth your time.

                        of course, if you did not learn anything useful in college, then you wasted your own time and im not sorry in the least.
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                        • e30e
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #13
                          I've been a fan too of Rowe's, he spoke at the FFA National Convention encourage the high students of agriculture to continue to persue there education of any kind in agriculture because of the industries well roundedness and hands on approach to many of the trades. As our OP knows I went to school to teach agriculture, I ended up doing a trade (making way more money), and ended up in a union. I'm glad for all three, I just love his union stance considering he only acknowledges the bad unions or some of things he doesn't agree, pretty much the same he does on any subject. Mike Rowe probably isn't a certified R or D, he's probably a lot like the country and is in the middle just forced to choose a side. His cause is going out to Romney to get attention on the subject, so for once I support whoring a cause.
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                          • Bill 84 318i
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1600

                            #14
                            I can't imagine there's a person out there that would dislike Mike Rowe.

                            I've done a decent amount with my four year degree, but I've also done a bit of humbling manual labor. I came out of that short period with a huge amount of respect for people that make their living that way. However, in the shadow of his letter and the marathons of his show that I've watched from my couch, I really can't claim much more than ignorance in the area of hard labor and anything related. I think his letters are fantastic and address real issues with the stigmata of "manual labor."

                            Glass is raised, Mr. Rowe.

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                            • Todd Black 88
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                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3449

                              #15
                              It's the same up here. Schools pushing all kids into university and away from the trade sector. Almost seeing them as a second class career.

                              I am a tradesman, working in someone else's company, and I have averaged $90,000 over the last 5 years, working 730-430 Monday to Friday only. This is wages money only, and does not include pension or the full benefits I recieve.
                              My company also employs refrigeration mechanics, and their contract is even better. Journeyman rate for them starts at just over $40 per hour, and for pension they recieve $8.25 per hour into a self directed RRSP. That's over $16000 per year in pension alone.

                              Very few of my friends with university degrees make similar money, and most make around half........if they could find a job in their fields.

                              Oh, and up here they are predicting a MASSIVE trade shortage by 2014 because a huge number of trades are at retirement age in the next two years.
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