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  • F34R
    sLaughter
    • May 2009
    • 12385

    #106
    Voted
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    • tjts1
      E30 Mastermind
      • May 2007
      • 1851

      #107
      I hope somebody bought a costco size pack of Kleenex for this evening. RWNJs are going to need it.

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      • streetwaves
        Grease Monkey
        • Nov 2009
        • 328

        #108
        Originally posted by ethrtyiS
        that's fine. like i had stated earlier, all of these polls and numbers mean absolutely nothing. especially ones that are from liberal sources or those so called conservative polls.

        tomorrow, the fate of the nation is decided. either we reject barack obama and socialism or america becomes another one of the great powers that did not fall, but committed suicide instead. we have heard all of the news up until now. can romney even win? yes he can. by how much? who knows, could be a close race or a landslide.

        there are certain things that must be understood on the front end. no president in the modern era has ever been reelected with unemployment over 7.1%. if you believe the numbers coming from the obama regime, the unemployment rate is 7.9%. the revised unemployment number, which will be released a few days after the election must be disastrous for the regime to have actually ticked the unemployment number up instead of a dramatic reduction to say 7.5% which would have at least given him a shot.

        another thing that presidents who are reelected have in common is that they all expand their electoral map for the second election. for a year, we have known that for obama, there was no expansion of the map. for a year or more, the obama strategy has been simply a stop the bleeding strategy.

        from day one of the election, obama and everyone else has known that the campaign is not picking up any new voters. no one who voted for john mcCain in 2008 is now going to turn around and vote for barack obama. on the other hand, the number of obama voters who now regret their decision is overwhelming.

        in this race, obama lacked the one thing that he has had in all of the elections in the past. he has not had a scandal that he can hang on his opponent. he has not had the nasty divorce file he could go through or get unsealed like he did against jack ryan in 2004. he did not have the allegations of an affair that he could use against romney as he did in 2008. this is why romney would not release his tax returns, and good for romney. the only prayer obama had of creating a scandal would have been for romney to release those tax records and have the team from chicago create a scandal over romney’s complicated taxes.

        the media has done its best to maintain the facade that obama was winning or this election is even close. cnn, the most busted name in news, came out with a poll that showed a 49%-49% tie. however, cnn oversampled democrats by 11%.

        certain polls do not lie. almost every poll has had obama below 50%. some of them are significantly below 50%. the only president to ever win reelection while being under 50% was bill clinton. he had ross perot to fracture the opposition vote. barack obama has no ross perot.

        when an incumbent president is under 50%, he is in real trouble. when you are less than 8 hours out from the election and you are not above 50%, it is time to call u-haul because you will be leaving the white house. 90% of the undecided votes will break against incumbent.

        the proof of the upcoming landslide is now evident in other ways. in campaign rallies, the tale is in the crowds. in 2008, obama brought in huge crowds, while mcCain spoke to tiny ones. today it is reversed. obama has been speaking to rallies of only a couple of thousand. in pennsylvania, a blue state, romney spoke to 30,000 yesterday.
        I stopped reading this gigantic wall of text when I realized you don't even know what socialism is. Rest of the post couldn't be much better.

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        • Q5Quint
          Mod Crazy
          • Jan 2005
          • 725

          #109
          Voted.

          Also likely getting a deal on a 5 spd vert.

          Its also snowing again.

          From a article in our paper apparently our county is split 3 ways~ ~34% registered are dems, 33% repubs, and 32% unaffiliated so I have no clue wtf will happen.

          We also have 3 voting locations in churches and 1 in 'EDGAR ELLERS GARAGE'. I am not sure if it is a mechanics garage or literally somebody's garage. I think it is literally somebody's garage from the map address. What a badass patriot to let people set up voting in your garage lol

          It also looks like it is beside the river which is pleasant.

          So how is yalls day going?

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          • Thizzelle
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2008
            • 4422

            #110
            THANKS GAYBAMA
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            "I got a tree on my house"

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            • gwb72tii
              No R3VLimiter
              • Nov 2005
              • 3864

              #111
              Originally posted by deutschman
              Why would you vote for someone who believes that when he dies he becomes a god of his own planet populated by his wives (plural) and offspring? I mean really. It sounds like fun and all and I'd like to be a god some day but why would you put some one that truly and viamantly believes something like that in the White House? What's next? A scientologist?
              really, who cares what someone believes will happen when they die and how is it relevant anyways?
              how about the messiah that believes cramming a national single payer healthcare system down the throats of america will result in lower costs and create jobs? from a government that cannot even deliver water to folks in new york after Sandy.
              “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
              Sir Winston Churchill

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              • tjts1
                E30 Mastermind
                • May 2007
                • 1851

                #112
                Originally posted by Thizzelle
                THANKS GAYBAMA
                Any time lover boy.

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                • streetwaves
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 328

                  #113
                  Originally posted by gwb72tii
                  really, who cares what someone believes will happen when they die and how is it relevant anyways?
                  how about the messiah that believes cramming a national single payer healthcare system down the throats of america will result in lower costs and create jobs? from a government that cannot even deliver water to folks in new york after Sandy.
                  You people don't even know what you're talking about. Obamacare is not single payer for god's sake.

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                  • gwb72tii
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3864

                    #114
                    Originally posted by streetwaves
                    You people don't even know what you're talking about. Obamacare is not single payer for god's sake.
                    then you have no clue what its intent is do you? :loco:
                    “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                    Sir Winston Churchill

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                    • gwb72tii
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3864

                      #115
                      WTF is wrong with politics in America?
                      The black panthers are now at Philly voting locations, and now ex-Seals are showing up as well.

                      “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                      Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • streetwaves
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 328

                        #116
                        Originally posted by gwb72tii
                        then you have no clue what its intent is do you? :loco:
                        Obamacare is a gigantic favor to the insurance companies. It's not a step toward single payer.

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                        • mrsleeve
                          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 16385

                          #117
                          ^
                          reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it??? thats not what he said.

                          What we HAD crammed down our throats (Obama care) is not what the O man had wanted. it was a compromise.


                          what he believes and wanted and what we got are 2 totally different things

                          here is the o man in his own words stating what he believes




                          And its not a step towards all for one one for all heath care and bad for the masses and middle class hmmmmmmm

                          read



                          Originally posted by article
                          By JULIE JARGON, LOUISE RADNOFSKY and ALEXANDRA BERZON

                          Some low-wage employers are moving toward hiring part-time workers instead of full-time ones to mitigate the health-care overhaul's requirement that large companies provide health insurance for full-time workers or pay a fee.

                          Several restaurants, hotels and retailers have started or are preparing to limit schedules of hourly workers to below 30 hours a week. That is the threshold at which large employers in 2014 would have to offer workers a minimum level of insurance or pay a penalty starting at $2,000 for each worker.

                          The shift is one of the first significant steps by employers to avoid requirements under the health-care law, and whether the trend continues hinges on Tuesday's election results. Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has pledged to overturn the Affordable Care Act, although he would face obstacles doing so.

                          President Barack Obama is set to push ahead with implementing the 2010 law if he is re-elected.

                          Pillar Hotels & Resorts this summer began to focus more on hiring part-time workers among its 5,500 employees, after the Supreme Court upheld the health-care overhaul, said Chief Executive Chris Russell. The company has 210 franchise hotels, under the Sheraton, Fairfield Inns, Hampton Inns and Holiday Inns brands.

                          "The tendency is to say, 'Let me fill this position with a 40-hour-a-week employee.' "Mr. Russell said. "I think we have to think differently."

                          Pillar offers health insurance to employees who work 32 hours a week or more, but only half take it, and Mr. Russell wants to limit his exposure to rising health-care costs. He said he planned to pursue new segments of the population, such as senior citizens, to find workers willing to accept part-time employment.

                          He described the shift as a "cultural change" toward hiring more part-timers and not a prohibition against hiring full-timers.

                          CKE Restaurants Inc., parent of the Carl's Jr. and Hardee's burger chains, began two months ago to hire part-time workers to replace full-time employees who left, said Andy Puzder, CEO of the Carpinteria, Calif., company. CKE, which is owned by private-equity firm Apollo Management LP, offers limited-benefit plans to all restaurant employees, but the federal government won't allow those policies to be sold starting in 2014 because of low caps on payouts. Mr. Puzder said he has advised Mr. Romney's campaign on economic issues in an unpaid capacity.

                          Home retailer Anna's Linens Inc. is considering cutting hours for some full-time employees to avoid the insurance mandate if the health-care law isn't repealed, said CEO Alan Gladstone.

                          Mr. Gladstone said the costs of providing coverage to all 1,100 sales associates who work at least 30 hours a week would be prohibitive, although he was weighing alternative options, such as raising prices.

                          The Costa Mesa, Calif., company currently offers benefits to workers who put in at least 32 hours a week.

                          Supporters of the health-care overhaul said most large employers already covered workers voluntarily, and requiring others to do so or pay a penalty was important to level the playing field between businesses.

                          A spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services said the administration didn't believe the law would substantially affect employment, citing the Massachusetts health-care overhaul signed by then-Gov. Romney in 2006.

                          "Consistent with the experience in Massachusetts and projections of the Congressional Budget Office, the health-care law will improve the affordability of health care while not significantly impacting the labor market," spokeswoman Erin Shields Britt said in a written statement. "This law will decrease costs, strengthen our businesses and make it easier for employers to provide coverage to their workers." Administration officials declined to answer further questions.

                          Companies in industries that already offer full benefits have indicated that they weren't planning major changes around the law. Several employers with hourly workforces, including Marriott International Inc. hotels, the Costco Wholesale Corp. warehouse chain and the Panera Bread Co. restaurant chain also said they had no plans to change employee hours in response to the law.

                          But benefits consultants said most retail and hotel clients have explored shifting toward part-time workers.

                          Those industries are less likely to offer health coverage now, and if they do, the plans typically are too skimpy to meet the minimum-coverage requirements.

                          "They've all considered it," Matthew Stevenson, a workforce-strategy principal at Mercer. In a July survey, 32% of retail and hospitality company respondents told the consulting firm that they were likely to reduce the number of employees working 30 hours a week or more.

                          Consultants have warned that companies that use more part-time labor risk productivity losses from high staff turnover and lower morale. Laurence Geller, who until last week was CEO of Strategic Hotels & Resorts Inc., said he weighed moving toward part-time workers but decided against risking that highly trained staff at his high-end hotels would go elsewhere. The company owns hotels bearing the Four Seasons, Fairmont and Ritz-Carlton names.

                          The insurance mandate applies to companies with the equivalent of 50 or more full-time workers, a calculation based on the number of people employed by the company and an average of hours they work in a week. Companies are adjusting schedules now because they will have to review employment rolls for up to a year in advance to determine which workers will be deemed full-time under the law.

                          A company will have to pay a penalty of $2,000 for every such worker, after the first 30, if it doesn't offer qualifying health coverage. If a company offers health insurance but the coverage is deemed sparse or unaffordable, the company must pay $3,000 for every worker who gets a federal tax subsidy to purchase coverage as an individual.

                          Darden Restaurants Inc. was among the first companies to say it was changing hiring in response to the health-care law. The Orlando, Fla., parent of Red Lobster and Olive Garden in February began testing hiring part-time workers in four markets to replace some full-time employees who had left, a spokesman said.

                          Ken Adams said his 10 Subway restaurant franchises in Michigan have about 60 employees who work 30 hours or more in a given week. Before year-end he plans to cut their hours to below 30 and, in some cases, to reduce positions altogether, he said. A Subway corporate spokesman said it was up to individual franchisees to make such decisions.
                          —Dana Mattioli, Janet Adamy and Shelly Banjo contributed to this article.
                          Originally posted by Fusion
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                          • tjts1
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • May 2007
                            • 1851

                            #118
                            Originally posted by gwb72tii
                            WTF is wrong with politics in America?
                            The black panthers are now at Philly voting locations, and now ex-Seals are showing up as well.

                            http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/new-bl...-intimidation/
                            Check your sources son, you fail.
                            On Tuesday, Breitbart.com reported that retired Navy SEAL Ben Brink told Fox News that he is reaching out to former special operations personnel to help monitor polls, especially in areas where voter intimidation has been reported.

                            “The nation saw the video of members of the Black Panthers in Philadelphia intimidating people trying to vote in 2008. We are going to try and make certain that nothing like that happens this year,” he said on the Larry Mendte show, according to a report at Phillymag.com.
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                            Now put away the bong and step away from the computer before your acute case of stupid becomes terminal.

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                            • streetwaves
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 328

                              #119
                              Originally posted by mrsleeve
                              ^
                              reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it??? thats not what he said.

                              What we HAD crammed down our throats (Obama care) is not what the O man had wanted. it was a compromise.


                              what he believes and wanted and what we got are 2 totally different things

                              here is the o man in his own words stating what he believes

                              He said he believes in "cramming single payer down our throats". Obviously he didn't cram it down our throats. We don't have it, and we hardly even heard about it.

                              If Obama believes in single-payer, he's possibly an actual liberal. Actions speak louder than words, though.

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                              • gwb72tii
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 3864

                                #120
                                the intent of the law is to have a single payer system take over. obama knows that would never pass on its own, but designed in incentives to business to throw their employees into the national system.
                                under 30 hours is part time and businesses don't have to offer you insurance. guess what? your hours are going to be cut and you ahve to fend for yourself.
                                or a business does a quick calculation, determines that a o-care penalty for not insuring is about 1/4 the cost of insuring, and dumps its employess intot he national system.
                                that is the intent
                                “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                                Sir Winston Churchill

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