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  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #16
    Eh, I get Yellowstone, smog free air, genuine people, open spaces, and freedom.

    Let's see who's gone belly up in a generation.

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    • Herr Faust Schinken
      No R3VLimiter
      • Feb 2012
      • 3580

      #17
      Originally posted by Swanny
      Well feel free and secede. Texas would have to pay back all the federal infrastructure so boooom thats a chunk out of out national debt. Immigration would probably be reduced to the US because they'll just STAY in Texas. It'll be a nice little buffer. And there goes a huge chunk of republican electoral college votes.
      Win, win, win...
      im personally with you on that one texas seceding could be good thing
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      • deutschman
        R3V Elite
        • May 2008
        • 5958

        #18
        California, Oregon, Washington are also working on this same idea but together so the three states would would be one larger country.
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        • ethrtyiS
          R3V OG
          • May 2010
          • 8147

          #19
          not just texas. there is something like 48 states i believe with a petition to secede from the us. if it does pass somewhere, that is where i will be relocating myself and my business.

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          • slammin.e28
            שמע ישראל
            • May 2010
            • 12054

            #20
            I always support succession. Got one of these when I was in Biarritz, France.

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            • CorvallisBMW
              Long Schlong Longhammer
              • Feb 2005
              • 13039

              #21
              Originally posted by ethrtyiS
              not just texas. there is something like 48 states i believe with a petition to secede from the us.
              Ya that doesn't sound right...

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              • Farbin Kaiber
                Lil' Puppet
                • Jul 2007
                • 29502

                #22
                Last I read it was 30. Liberal Media was saying 15 though this morning.

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                • nrubenstein
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3148

                  #23
                  Originally posted by VinniE30
                  Not sure why we're bringing california into this but cali has the biggest deficit of any of the 50 states, by far.
                  Texas would do better than cali economically as a stand alone country.
                  If CA seceded from the US, they could balance their budget pretty easily with the Federal tax revenue that they currently lose to, say, Alabama and other states.
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                  • VinniE30
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2010
                    • 2113

                    #24
                    Originally posted by nrubenstein
                    If CA seceded from the US, they could balance their budget pretty easily with the Federal tax revenue that they currently lose to, say, Alabama and other states.
                    I don't think you understand. California takes more money from the federal government than it gives back in the form of taxes. California is essentially being supported by other states that balance their budget.
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                    • tjts1
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • May 2007
                      • 1851

                      #25
                      Originally posted by VinniE30
                      what if..
                      Do the world a favor. Nuke em
                      Originally posted by VinniE30
                      I don't think you understand. California takes more money from the federal government than it gives back in the form of taxes. California is essentially being supported by other states that balance their budget.
                      You got that one ass backwards.

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                      • BraveUlysses
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 3781

                        #26
                        Because it's my favorite onion article, of all time:

                        South Postpones Rising Again For Yet Another Year

                        HUNTSVILLE, AL–For the 135th straight year since Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender at Appomattox, representatives for the South announced Monday that the region has postponed plans to rise again.

                        "Make no mistake, the South shall rise again," said Knox Pritchard, president of the Huntsville-based Alliance Of Confederate States. "But we're just not quite ready to do it now. Hopefully, we'll be able to rise again real soon, maybe even in 2001."

                        Pritchard's fellow Southerners shared his confidence.

                        "Yes, sir. The South will rise again, and when it does, I'll be right up front waving the Stars and Bars," said Dock Mullins of Decatur, GA. "But first, I gotta get my truck fixed and get that rusty old stove out of my yard."

                        "Lord willing, and the creek don't rise, we gonna rise again," said Sumter, SC, radiator technician Hap Slidell, who describes himself as "Southern by the grace of God." "I don't know exactly when we're gonna do it, but one of these days, we're gonna show them Yankees how it's done."

                        "Save your Confederate dollars," Slidell added. "You can bet on that."

                        The Deep South states of Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana, and Tennessee consistently rank at the bottom of the nation in a wide variety of statistical categories, including literacy, infant mortality, hospital beds, toilet-paper sales, and shoe usage. Even so, some experts believe the region could be poised for a renaissance.

                        "The way things stand, things in the Deep South almost have to get better. Otherwise, the people who live there will devolve into preverbal, overall-wearing sub-morons within a century," said Professor Dennis Lassiter of Princeton University. "Either Southerners will start improving themselves, or they'll be sold to middle-class Asians as pets."

                        "My constituents are decent, hard-working folk," said Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC), despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, in his 22nd annual "Next Year, By God!" speech on the steps of North Carolina's capitol building. "We are a proud people who mayn't have all that much fancy-pants book-learnin', but we live and die with pride in our proud heritage and the dignity of our forebears."

                        Helms' speech was met with nearly 25 minutes of enthusiastic hoots and rebel yells by the 15,000 drunk, unemployed tobacco pickers in attendance.

                        Though Southerners are overwhelmingly in favor of rising again, few were able to provide specific details of the rising-again process.

                        "I don't know, I reckon we'll build us a bunch of big, fancy buildins and pave us up a whole mess of roads," said Bobby Lee Fuller of Greenville, MS. "I ain't exactly sure where we're gonna get the money for that, but when Johnny Reb sets his mind to something, you best get out of his way."

                        "Oh, it'll happen, sure as the sun come up in the morning," said Buford Comstock, 26, a student at Over 'N' Back Diesel Driving School in Union City, TN. "The South is gonna rise up, just as soon as we get together and get all our shit back in one sock. Then, look out, Northerners!"

                        "Yesiree," Comstock added, "one day soon, the Mason-Dixon Line will be the boundary between a great nation and one whose time done passed."

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                        • VinniE30
                          R3VLimited
                          • May 2010
                          • 2113

                          #27
                          Originally posted by tjts1
                          You got that one ass backwards.
                          Nope. California is by far the worst.
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                          • BraveUlysses
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 3781

                            #28
                            Originally posted by VinniE30
                            Nope. California is by far the worst.
                            http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...get-shortfalls
                            I'm not sure you did it, but there are two discussions being conflated here:

                            a) state budget shortfalls
                            vs
                            b) amount of federal tax dollars contributed vs received, state by state:

                            Even as Republicans gripe about deficit spending, their states get 30 cents more federal spending per tax dollar than their Democratic neighbors.


                            For california:

                            Federal spending received for every tax dollar paid per capita: $1.22

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                            • ohthejosh
                              R3V Elite
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 4963

                              #29
                              This reminds me of how Southern California wanted to be its own state. LOL.
                              SO MUCH MORE TO DO!!
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                              • CorvallisBMW
                                Long Schlong Longhammer
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 13039

                                #30
                                Originally posted by VinniE30
                                Nope. California is by far the worst.
                                http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...get-shortfalls
                                You are mixing up two very different things. State budget shortfalls =/= Federal tax receipts

                                Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                                I'm not sure you did it, but there are two discussions being conflated here:

                                a) state budget shortfalls
                                vs
                                b) amount of federal tax dollars contributed vs received, state by state:

                                Even as Republicans gripe about deficit spending, their states get 30 cents more federal spending per tax dollar than their Democratic neighbors.


                                For california:

                                Federal spending received for every tax dollar paid per capita: $1.22
                                Exactly.

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