Veganism: Is it morally wrong to eat/kill animals?

[Buzztt]

its the hypocritical ones that annoy me, they wont eat meat but they are fine wearing leather shoes or wearing products tested on animals

its fine having a poor little bunny being kept in a tiny cage having shit squirted in his eyes that burns and blinds him just so someone can smell nice but having him humanely killed and then eaten is just plain wrong

[cale]

right right right, so all of my sources were completely wrong and insane, but no one can provide sources that eating meat is healthier (or healthy), or morally correct.

So you're expecting a source to prove that eating meat is morally justifiable? Holy shit you're ignorant and biased.

[streetwaves]

right right right, so all of my sources were completely wrong and insane, but no one can provide sources that eating meat is healthier (or healthy), or morally correct. hypocrisy in this thread was not contributed by me.

and, of course none of you actually followed any of my links anyway. so here I'll go ahead and post the links to the scientific journals about health. the science is in here about health, which you all were attacking-- saying that it's healthier to eat meat. However none of you have been able to produce any information supporting the claim, other than pictures of bacon.

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/arti...icleid=1134845
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/122/9/876

http://www.scribd.com/doc/94656/The-Comparative-Anatomy-of-Eating

want me to pull more? not like it'll matter. none of you will read them anyway.

Imbecile.

The onus is on you to prove that vegans are healthier and longer-living than the world's healthiest meat eaters. It's a well-known fact that diets higher in plant foods and lower in meat are healthiest. There is no reason to believe that a vegan diet is healthier than a well-balanced omnivorous diet.

It may very well be that meat is healthiest kept at 10% of your diet, but that doesn't mean meat is unhealthy. The fact that a diet comprised of 90% of rice, or 90% lettuce, or 90% almonds is unhealthy does not make those foods unhealthy; it means you're eating like an idiot.

The fact is, there is an extremely limited amount of information on the life expectancies of life-long vegans. So if you've just got some new information in, it's your job to share it with us and prove that vegans are the longest lived folks on Earth. For now, the reigning champions are a people that eat lots of vegetables and a little meat.

One of the most commonly cited reasons is that of health, based on findings that red meat is detrimental to health in many cases due to non-lean red meats containing high amounts of saturated fats.[2][3] Eating certain kinds of fish raises HDL levels,[4][5] and some fish are a convenient source of omega-3 fatty acids,[6] and have numerous health benefits in one food variety.[7] A 1999 meta-study of five studies comparing vegetarian and non-vegetarian mortality rates in Western countries found that in comparison with regular meat eaters, mortality from ischemic heart disease was 34% lower in pescetarians, 34% lower in ovo-lacto vegetarians, 26% lower in vegans and 20% lower in occasional meat eaters.[8]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10479225

[klavender1]

Having skipped over all 11 pages, I just have one thing to say:
If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat! :D

[slammin.e28]

God damn this thread has gone on for 11 pages?

I ate another tasty burger today. My dog watched me, even though I frown upon that behavior. She approved, as did the cat in the chair next to me.

[iamsam]

I'm on page 4 btw. noob. ;)

I was about to say that squid has left, possibly ruptured brain stem, but hey! He's back! The fun can continue!

[slammin.e28]

I'm on page 4 btw. noob. ;)

I was about to say that squid has left, possibly ruptured brain stem, but hey! He's back! The fun can continue!

I like having many pages. Makes me feel important

[iamsam]

Hey squid, I actually have a legitimate comment/argument to make. Basic, simple, and to the point.

Does the amount of effort expended on your part to combat cruelty to animals dwarf your efforts expended to combat similar cruelty to humans? i.e. the crap going on in 3rd world countries, middle east, Africa, wherever people are oppressed, starving, suffering etc.

In short, humans who may be going through the same suffering that animals do. Do you care more for the animals?

Even shorter, shouldn't we be fighting for those humans as a priority over fighting for those animals?

[10Toes]

All the eyeliner squidmaster wears is probably tested on animals...

[Thizzelle]

All the eyeliner squidmaster wears is probably tested on animals...

LOL

I know some vegans, they don't give a fuck that I eat meat. I met one the other week. She told me that to maintain my muscles she would never exspect me to not eat meat or I would be eating all fucking day. I like these types of vegans. The ones that understand and are hot.

[iamsam]

LOL

I know some vegans, they don't give a fuck that I eat meat. I met one the other week. She told me that to maintain my muscles she would never exspect me to not eat meat or I would be eating all fucking day. I like these types of vegans. The ones that understand and are hot.

pics of your muscles

[Farbin Kaiber]

[10Toes]

new avatar, thanks Farbin

[Farbin Kaiber]

*tips hat. No problem my good sir.

[streetwaves]

LOL

I know some vegans, they don't give a fuck that I eat meat. I met one the other week. She told me that to maintain my muscles she would never exspect me to not eat meat or I would be eating all fucking day. I like these types of vegans. The ones that understand and are hot.

Hahaha so shameless.