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Again I have more than adequately answered your question, about why, and where the constitution allows US citizens to own Military grade hardware. I have also outlined what it takes to get Military Grade hardware and the fact that its a paperwork nightmare, and intrusive to get such hardware.
An AR-15/AR-10 is NOT MILITARY GRADE HARDWARE. As has been explained to you while it may share a similar outward appearance, and do share some parts interchangeability. To make a Civilian AR platform accept Military L/E only parts requires some equipment most people dont have access to nor have the ability to use in away that will not ruin the firearm. Not to mention you have to not only have a FFL, but a Manufacturers Licenses to get the other necessary parts like trigger groups and bolt carriers, which they in turn CANT SELL to the general public. Also the fines and pentalies for doing shit like this are VERY VERY high both the person doing it and the dealer that is selling the parts. If you have a legally registered and owned NFA item you can get the replacement parts and your FFL can order them, but you have to provide the correct documentation and the serial numbers for the weapon you are refurbishing
So we legal firearms owners have given into "common sense legislation" time and time again. We have seen year over year declines in both violent crime in general and crimes with firearms in general with increasing amounts of arms being carried by civilians and and ownership in general.
according to the FBI knives are responsible for 5x more deaths in the US, than all rifles used in crimes. Why are going to ban them and not knives again. Oh yeah they look like a SEAL gun....................... I would be far more afraid of a guy going nuts with a scoped 270win bolt gun that knows how to use it than these fuck wit kids with an AR that have played too much call of duty.Last edited by mrsleeve; 12-19-2012, 05:10 PM.The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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I asked specifically about weapons which are deployable by an individual soldier which you yourself cannot legally own. Try to look past specifics like the AR-15 if you're capable of doing so, you seem to be stuck on repeat. Is that not an infringement upon your rights? By your interpretation (yes you interpret, you already admitted implying was necessary) anything available to a soldier should be available to you.Comment
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Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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Taking it easy by avoiding directly answering a question, sleeve should be a politician.Comment
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Cale Be specific about what Kind of arms deployed by individuals riflemen are we talking about. Short of things developed and manufactured POST 1986 most anything is of fair game assuming it was every for sale as a surplus item, to have be put into the civilian market. While there are somethings that are never let out of the inventories and are never made available to us, regardless if we could make the purchases under NFA rules or not.
The average rifleman carries a rifle, a bayonet sometimes a combat knife, many now also carry side arms, NV gear, high quality optics, and laser sights. All things I can go to my local sporting goods store and buy over the counter. But the rifle I can buy is not the same as his, Mine has no selector switch and one cant be installed. I am pointing to the AR platform because thats what is the evil flavor of the day is and is being demonized by appearance rather than actual mechanical make up.
In my state I can own any NFA item I want, so long as I can afford it.
There is little that is Implied in "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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Cale you can even own a GE Mini Gun if you have the dough for it. OR to feed it for that matter.
just for shits, every gun in this video is privately owned by someone here in the States. ALL LEGAL TO OWN if you follow the rules to one one.
Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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And this is Knob Creek machine gun shoot 2012 just a few months ago. Every gun in this video is privately owned by a citizen of the US. Even the Helicopter.
Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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^ :rofl: those videos are so 'merica fuck yeah!
Zinno '89 <24v swap in progress>
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A good quote that goes with what I said in #199.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Robert A. HeinleinComment
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Exactly.
I don't always carry a gun but I always play nice, because the other guy might be.
Statistically there is such a small chance that I will be robbed at gunpoint, or have anything happen where I would need a gun, that I don't really feel threatened. I usually just assume some idiot around me has one so if shit hits the fan he can be the lucky one in the shootout and I will just give them money/run and live to tell about it.
It does take a bit of a brain though..... ie you probably shouldnt be walking down railroad tracks through the ghetto at 2am or standing in front of the church with your palestinian lesbian girlfriend and your other black lesbian wife protesting the lack of support for gay-interracial-muslim-polygamy. That is just asking for somebody with a gun to wave it in your face.
These crimes are horrible for sure but you are literally more likely to get attacked by a shark, and sharks are easily avoidable as are certain parts of certain cities. Ex. you probably want to avoid DC, Louisiana, and Alabama if you enjoy not being murdered.
So what if the murder rate is 4x that as the uk or canada- they are communists anyways and nobody wants that! Interestingly enough our suicide rates are all really close..... and our murder rate is the same or lower for some states.
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That post made me giggle.The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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I tend to be in the middle of a lot of debates between 'red' and 'blue' friends because I share sentiments on both sides.
Today I found the fun statistic that more people were murdered by hammers/clubs/blunt objects than with rifles.
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/off...rtable_08.html
I find it interesting since I rolled with a golf club in my trunk for years~ I was actually driving around with a weapon that kills more per year than an ar-15.
*edit: Does that mean I am scared? Yes- I am not exactly a 'big guy' so if I ever had to fight one I would really like to at least level the field.Comment
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