We need to regulate cars the way we regulate guns

[BraveUlysses]

LOL.. I guess all those teachers were just pussies for not defending themselves with their bare hands when a mad man came at them guns blazing.

i wonder if his comment applies to his significant other--is she too much of a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles if she weren't able to fend off a male attacker without a gun?

[frankenbeemer]

I don't know why this coward didn't use his hands instead of a gun. He could have saved many lives, instead he put many people at risk with his careless use of a tool whose only purpose is to kill.

http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/bios/story/conceal-and-carry-stabbing-salt-lake-city-smiths/NDNrL1gxeE2rsRhrWCM9dQ.cspx

[cale]

So stating that no one needs an assault rifle is an irrelevant statement.

That's your opinion, just as it's someone else's that they do not require them. To me it's an unsubstantiated argument, but still valid. Their lack of necessity combined with the consequences of them being made available together is by no means irrelevant.

[frankenbeemer]

Their alleged lack of necessity combined with the consequences of them being made available together is by no means irrelevant.

Better?

[CorvallisBMW]

None of the OP's posted quote is true though. I can get on craigslist and buy a gun within 30 minutes with zero background check, fees, fingerprinting, documentation, licensing or anything else listed in the article.

Nice try, though. The gun-fanatics sure gulped it right up.

[BraveUlysses]

None of the OP's posted quote is true though. I can get on craigslist and buy a gun within 30 minutes with zero background check, fees, fingerprinting, documentation, licensing or anything else listed in the article.

Nice try, though. The gun-fanatics sure gulped it right up.

No guns, parts or ammo sales allowed on craigslist.

And while your theoretical scenario is true, there are many law-abiding people who will not sell you a gun without some sort of proof that you're not a felon or otherwise not allowed to buy/own a gun.

[herbivor]

i wonder if his comment applies to his significant other--is she too much of a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles if she weren't able to fend off a male attacker without a gun?

She is also trained in martial arts. In a small room environment like my house I would likely be just as successful disarming or killing an intruder with my hands than with a gun. But I have been trained to do so. I know most people haven't and in many situations like a theater or school, close combat opportunities don't exist, but then again, had I carried a gun in those situations, the likelyhood of me killing the assailant is also small, due to the mass panic from the crowd. I'm not anti-gun, but I don't think it is unreasonable to limit the amount of gun one should own. Why does anyone need an assault rifle, other than for war or mass killings?

[bimma360]

God why are people in this country in such a hurry to piss away their rights? Even if it is rights they don't care about having.

Here is one of many sources that will compare gun deaths in the US vs Auto deaths (look at the totals): http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pd...ths_2010-a.pdf

Its a few years old, but i'm sure it hasn't changed much.

Obesity related deaths is over half a MILLION per year in the US. Remember the soda tax fiasco? People pooped a brick when that was proposed. Screaming my rights this and my rights that. Fucking sheep!

Using the anti-gun argument: You don't need to fucking drink Mountain Dew, you don't need to eat fast food. Obesity kills people, people! Mountain Dew Kills people!

But wait you say, guns are created for one purpose only, Mountain Dew isn't.

Yeah, and as a free human being I want to fucking decide what that purpose is, no one else. If I want to own a gun to protect myself, don't tell me I can't. If I want to own a gun for recreational use, don't tell me I can't. As long as my ownership doesn't DIRECTLY infringe on the rights of others, don't tell me I can't. If I want to drink myself retarded in Mountain Dew, don't tell me I can't. If I want to drink it in moderation, don't tell me I can't.

On a side note, I am actually of normal weight, health, and shape. I rarely buy soda and mostly try to eat/be healthy. And if the US government decided to tax the shit out of it, it wouldn't really effect me personally. Hell, I dont even own a gun. But now thats not the point is it. Keeping ALL of your rights is the point. You loose one that doesn't concern you, no biggy right? Can you tell me it will end there? Is gun ownership the only right being infringed upon right now?

The OP's post is fantastic, and it can be rewritten to account for a lot of other things that kill more people per year than guns do.

But wait, when was the last time crazy people drove cars into schools and killed dozens of children? The Oklahoma City bombing killed 168 people and 19 children. The vehicle used was instrumental in making that happen. But the vehicle didn't directly kill anyone. Yup you are right, just like a gun doesn't directly kill anyone either. The bullet does.

Anyway, I'm sure some will chime in and say this and say that, and pick apart this and pick apart that. Thats cool, give up your rights. Sorry for the rant everyone. I try so hard not to get sucked into this stuff.

[frankenbeemer]

None of the OP's posted quote is true though.

Really? None of it is true?

[cale]

Better?

What task are they the only possible choice of weapon? They may have a use, but there most certainly is another firearm which could do the same thing. They're not necessary, they're just the choice some make.

[Thizzelle]

Why in hell do we allow the police to have these dangerous things?

to protect yourself from someone who does have one that is trying to shoot and kill. Hence why we need them

[frankenbeemer]

What task are they the only possible choice of weapon? They may have a use, but there most certainly is another firearm which could do the same thing. They're not necessary, they're just the choice some make.

Based on necessity, what firearms would you allow police to choose to have?

[frankenbeemer]

She is also trained in martial arts. In a small room environment like my house I would likely be just as successful disarming or killing an intruder with my hands than with a gun. But I have been trained to do so. I know most people haven't and in many situations like a theater or school, close combat opportunities don't exist, but then again, had I carried a gun in those situations, the likelyhood of me killing the assailant is also small, due to the mass panic from the crowd. I'm not anti-gun, but I don't think it is unreasonable to limit the amount of gun one should own. Why does anyone need an assault rifle, other than for war or mass killings?

You sound like a danger to society. Why aren't your hands registered as deadly weapons?

[Wschnitz]

I Think its all BS, if i want to put a 30 round clip on my hunting rifle and a scope and muzzle break so i can go to the range and enjoy accurate, continued shooting without reloading every half minute, i should be fucking able to, why is adding a few things make a gun an assault rifle, thats my problem. Also i bet you 99 times out of a 100 you will get shot before you make your karate move.

[mrsleeve]

None of the OP's posted quote is true though. I can get on craigslist and buy a gun within 30 minutes with zero background check, fees, fingerprinting, documentation, licensing or anything else listed in the article.

Nice try, though. The gun-fanatics sure gulped it right up.

The point of that article was to point out how restrictive and ridiculous, the rules for owning an Assault weapon are, by comparing them to another every day item that is responsible via human operation for killing even more men, women and children. How ambiguous and difficult it can be to not only obtain one but to travel with one and how easy it can be to break the rules. Every thing in that is true, and counter to what everything you have been told or trying to pass off an AR15 IS NOT A FUCKING ASSAULT RIFLE.

You like your low, good handling, swapped for more power, little cars that can go fast around corners. Why do you need something that is low and handles good, you dont have to go around corners fast, in fact going fast at all let around corners is dangerous. You car can go much faster than the posted speed limit, but I am sure you never do that as well. Why do you need such a fast sporty car I why dont we ban those. We will still support your privilege to drive and all, but since you need to have a car like that you can only have a base model KIA, it will still let you travel and move stuff you need moved, you just wont be as much of a danger to your self and others if you dont have something fast.


You missed the point of the Op-Ed totally, because guns are scary to you.