Taxes are too low

[gwb72tii]

it's not the spending, it's a revenue (tax) issue
coming to an e30 near you;

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-roads-black-boxes-20131027,0,6090226.story#axzz2iwf83GXF

[ME30W]

not happening in an e30. It's likely these plug into the OBD2 port...

[Fusion]

Bullshit. We have road tax and the roads are still crap. Payed highways ($70 anually), highways are still crap. The money goes into other stuff.
America, borrow from the EU. They have plenty funds for roads.

But anything electronic is bound to be cracked. We have toll gates for trucks. All you have to do is cover the gizmo with aluminium so it doesn't subtract credits.

[Herr Faust Schinken]

saw didn't England try to get something like this introduced awhile back, i don't think anyone went for it also
heres your guy

he's from Ex- Soviet russia

[z31maniac]

Or they could just have someone check the mileage when you register your car every year.

I'm astounded Libertarians are on board with gov't tracking, I realize they support use-taxes, but this is a bit too much for me.

[Fusion]

It wouldn't have to be OBD. You'd need a digital odo. Although I don't know of many cars with digital odo, without obd. My DD is a small van that was used by a logistics company and has an RS232 device that tracks milage. The technology is probably 15 years old. But they used it to make sure employees didn't use the cars for personal stuff and to track mpg.

[mrsleeve]

But wait, when you drive more you consume more fuel there by paying more road use taxes??????

[slammin.e28]

How about we stop mandating cars get XXXX average MPG all the time, then people will use more gas, and thus pay more in taxes.

VA had a extra tax on hybrids for this purpose, but IIRC it got repealed this year.

Fuck more taxes. They can take their black boxes and shove them.


Also make those stupid mopeds pay to be registered like cars. Those things are pesky and get in the way, and don't get me started on the asshole bikers here who won't move over and get piss when you want to pass them. Clogging up our roads and not paying a penny for they're maintenance.

[z31maniac]

But wait, when you drive more you consume more fuel there by paying more road use taxes??????

Well, if the all dolts on the Right would let gas taxes have been raised, or initially indexed to inflation, we might not be looking at this.

But inflation has gone up quite a bit in the last 20 years + increased constructions costs and material costs that have outstripped it.

I suspect you will still be happy to work for the same amount of money the next 20 years regardless of your purchasing power?

[bmwman91]

So...will I get busted for tax evasion when I ride my bike to work?

[kronus]

he's from Ex- Soviet russia

so.. russia? i didn't know there was a non-ex-soviet russia.

[bmwstephen]

clearly years of fiscal mismanagement is not to blame. seriously, its not like we are building these infrastructures from scratch, if they are running a deficit then they are probably spending more on admin and perks than actually using the funds for its intended purpose

[slammin.e28]

clearly years of fiscal mismanagement is not to blame. seriously, its not like we are building these infrastructures from scratch, if they are running a deficit then they are probably spending more on admin and perks than actually using the funds for its intended purpose

They never use funds for the intended purpose. Social Security, anyone?

[herbivor]

Wait, we have to pay for the stuff we want? Bullshit.

[ficklerx]

Wait, we have to pay for the stuff we want?

While I appreciate the sarcasm, we are not paying for things now. Just borrowing more.

Gotta keep your constituency happy.