Missing Flight MH370 777-200

[Farbin Kaiber]

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Andersen+Air+Force+Base,+Yigo,+Guam/Diego+Garcia,+BBND+1ZZ,+British+Indian+Ocean+Territory/@7.1375137,88.2097798,4z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x671f8664c43702af:0x742a89c93474e833!2m2!1d144.924438!2d13.5875!1m5!1m1!1s0x249273fe6d69b0ad:0x3b3c07570eb0d1c5!2m2!1d72.4228556!2d-7.3195005

Even though I know basic geography, I decided to double check before I said this, but come on, all the space where this is going on is within swipes from Diego Garcia & Andersen AFB in Guam, there is no way the US didn't see everything.

[Farbin Kaiber]

[ThatOneEuroE30]

What is this??

[Farbin Kaiber]

That is the flightsim setup from the main pilots house.

[einhander]

That's nowhere near Guam, Farbio. Even if we could have been watching, its doubtful the dude at the screen even knew anything was up.

You give the US way too much credit.

[Farbin Kaiber]

That's nowhere near Guam, Farbio. Even if we could have been watching, its doubtful the dude at the screen even knew anything was up.

You give the US way too much credit.

You are saying in such a hot-button area, that the two best known US Military installations are not strategically placed and have tech that allows their vision to overlap. I'm sorry, but I doubt the US has a deadzone down there.


And,

Was Flight 370 flown into a Taliban area?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11220825

[gkurey]

All I see with that is an aviation enthusiast who works in the area he also most enjoys and had a rad home sim set up...I mean, I'm a pilot and I play sims at home all the time. Not on that level, but I can see it happening. You've seen some of the sweet rigs people build around forza/GT5 etc.

[mrsleeve]

Farb that is why it should be refereed to as UN-common sense now-a-days. replaced by intellectualism gained solely from books while discounting those with real world experience .

[einhander]

You are saying in such a hot-button area, that the two best known US Military installations are not strategically placed and have tech that allows their vision to overlap. I'm sorry, but I doubt the US has a deadzone down there.


And,

Was Flight 370 flown into a Taliban area?


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11220825

1. Guam is not strategically placed for this. Guam is far away. Guam watches China. Guam watches North Korea. Guam watches the East China Sea. Guam does not necessarily watch civil air traffic out of KL. Diego Garcia, maybe. Chagos Islands, maybe. I'm sure whatever data they have is being reviewed. The point is they don't watch civil air traffic unless they need to. There was never any indication of a hijacking so any data will be retrospective. We weren't watching it happen in real time.

2. No. No Taliban territory. The plane would have had to fly over India (almost all of India - a vast fucking country), then fly over Pakistan, then fly into Afghanistan. Indians would have picked it up and intercepted. Pakistan would have picked it up and intercepted. The US controls Afghanistan airspace - same thing.


Next you'll be telling us it went through a wormhole.

[einhander]

Farb that is why it should be refereed to as UN-common sense now-a-days. replaced by intellectualism gained solely from books while discounting those with real world experience .

I flew 120k miles last year on civil and military aircraft. I've flown 40k already this year.

Where is your experience?

(only applies if you're referring to me...rawr)

[Farbin Kaiber]

I agree it's not top level stuff, if you look at the stuff on Viperpits.com, this is a kids toy.

Fact of the matter is, did he spend hundreds of hours of his downtime working out a landing maneuver on an old airstrip somewhere, or was he just goofing off. I can say, if I work all day on cars, I don't come home to work on cars, unless I am engrossed and my lifes focus is this task and it's completion.

[Farbin Kaiber]

1. Guam is not strategically placed for this. Guam is far away. Guam watches China. Guam watches North Korea. Guam watches the East China Sea. Guam does not necessarily watch civil air traffic out of KL. Diego Garcia, maybe. Chagos Islands, maybe. I'm sure whatever data they have is being reviewed. The point is they don't watch civil air traffic unless they need to. There was never any indication of a hijacking so any data will be retrospective. We weren't watching it happen in real time.

2. No. No Taliban territory. The plane would have had to fly over India (almost all of India - a vast fucking country), then fly over Pakistan, then fly into Afghanistan. Indians would have picked it up and intercepted. Pakistan would have picked it up and intercepted. The US controls Afghanistan airspace - same thing.


Next you'll be telling us it went through a wormhole.

Your #1, I understand it is "out of the way", but come on, are you telling me, in the world of $600 toilet seats that the US Gov didn't make sure all their strategic sites had the ability to oversee the other? They spent the money, and their systems overlap. Years ago, the gov said that Southern Asia is the next area to watch, so I'm sure they are watching.

#2, I just posted a link, didn't say I bought it, just bring all the info I find to the table.

And, if you look back, I already said this reminded me of Stephen King's The Langoliers. They flew through a tear in time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Langoliers

[ThatOneEuroE30]

My guess is it flew toward burma

[mrsleeve]

I flew 120k miles last year on civil and military aircraft. I've flown 40k already this year.

Where is your experience?

(only applies if you're referring to me...rawr)

my point was the guys who fly in and out of these atolls and have been stationed there have chimed in some, yet you seem to discount them. And the point being that Anderson and Diego can see to each others area of influence.

Your telling me that we can collect and store all the cell phone and digital correspondence of 300m American citizens every day and many international transfers of data, but we cant store what a blip on a radar screen did a week ago with in the scope of 2 of the most advanced air and orbital observation facilities on the planet. Yeah Ok............ I suspect the US military knows about just about all the shit in the air at a given time civi, military, or commercial. it might not be noticed in "real time" but I am sure the data is there. Like I have said much much more is known about this incident that we are being told......


You flying on a plane is not the same as flying the fucking thing or working as critical crew now is it......... I fly a fair amount but not to that extent.

[SGT4677]

Unless they were ahead of the game and hardwired a different transponder and spoofed their way through airspace with a second plane that was not wheels up so they could fly through airspace as something else. Then, fly transponder back on another plane, then hook it back to original plane. Now you have a plane hidden in plain site. Or is it in plane site? ;)

The transponders don't hold the coding.It is either hardwired into the aircraft or coded through dip switches. I don't recall exactly how the 777 is setup but probably to change the code you would have to access a panel in the forward cargo bay. There is no direct access to the transponders in flight on the 777.