No one needs 15 rounds

[einhander]

Do you even know where India is?

Running from what? I said it was a good quote - it simply had no bearing on the discussion.

[marshallnoise]

Do you even know where India is?

Another stupid tactic. Well, it works on some people. Ridicule. But...I expect such behavior from you.

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[einhander]

Another stupid tactic. Well, it works on some people. Ridicule. But...I expect such behavior from you.

You aren't very bright, are you?

Ok.

[marshallnoise]

Ok.

The only stupid here is anyone, including myself, for engaging a twat like you.

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[einhander]

The only stupid here is anyone, including myself, for engaging a twat like you.

No one is forcing you to post...not even sure what we're arguing about at this point.

[marshallnoise]

No one is forcing you to post...not even sure what we're arguing about at this point.

Yeah, which was the point of my post.

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[einhander]

Yeah, which was the point of my post.

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Which post was that?

[mrsleeve]

Fair enough, however, I disagree with Finklestein's discussion tactics. The erroneous attribution of the quote is somehow designed to render the quote moot.

The quote originated in the movie "Tora Tora Tora" and you are correct, it is likely a composite of his feelings about the US and what he knew about the country.

Regardless, trying to end discussion over assigning a person to the quote is just a misdirection of the discussion.

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Yeah Enihorn and a I almost never really agree, either you just have to learn to basically ignore him unless you just want have a troll Vs troll thread lol

The Tora Tora Tora quote your thinking of is
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

A nice dumbing down and summery of his thoughts from Hollywood for stupid Americans

This is the basis for that quote.

A military man can scarcely pride himself on having "smitten a sleeping enemy"; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack. - Isoroku Yamamoto

[einhander]

It isn't trolling to challenge someone's thinking. Some guys just get all pissy when you challenge the groupthink on gun ownership up in here.

[marshallnoise]

It isn't trolling to challenge someone's thinking. Some guys just get all pissy when you challenge the groupthink on gun ownership up in here.

That would be true if you weren't trolling. You aren't challenging anyone. You are just stoking a fire with flippant commentary.

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[einhander]

That would be true if you weren't trolling. You aren't challenging anyone. You are just stoking a fire with flippant commentary.

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I'm not being flippant.

I challenged you to disprove me about Yamamato not saying what ParsedOut quoted. You couldn't.

[marshallnoise]

I'm not being flippant.

I challenged you to disprove me about Yamamato not saying what ParsedOut quoted.

You couldn't.

It is a meaningless venture. Who cares who said it? The words strung together still have meaning.

I was merely curious if your statement was true.

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[einhander]

It is a meaningless venture. Who cares who said it? The words strung together still have meaning.

I was merely curious if your statement was true.

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Fair enough.

Game on.

[marshallnoise]

Fair enough.

Game on.

I like reloading less often.

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[CorvallisBMW]

The only purpose that high-capacity magazines serve is to make offensive killing easier. Period. You can fire more rounds at more targets in a shorter period of time while showing yourself in a defenseless posture (i.e. reloading) less frequently. In other words, it makes killing lots of people in a short time period easier. It has nothing to do with defensive shooting and everything to do with offensive shooting.

Mass shootings committed with high-capacity magazines between 1984 and 2013: 36

Recorded instances of guns with high-capacity magazines being used in self defense during the same period: 0

http://nyagv.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/VPCshootinglistSM.pdf

The idea that a mass-murder is in no way "inconvenienced" by the lack of a hi-cap mag, but that a private citizen is, would be laughable if it weren't directly responsible for the deaths of so many innocent people. I've heard so many people say "Hi-cap mags aren't the issue. It takes 2 seconds to reload. Banning them won't change anything". OK, so why do you need them if it's as easy to reload as you say it is? If it takes them 2 seconds to reload, it takes you 2 seconds also. A high-cap mag can't be a boon for you and a bust for them simultaneously. If it's easy for them to reload, it's easy for you too. If a hi-cap mag makes it easier for you to shoot a large number of assailants, it makes it easier for them to shoot a large number of victims. You don't get to cherry-pick the upsides and downsides and them apply them in whatever fashion furthers your own zealotry.