No one needs 15 rounds

[ParsedOut]

Why would it require a national registry? We already have background checks, and there's no registry. How would closing loopholes mandate the creation of one?

More proof of ignorance. Do a bit more research on the subject and you'll understand.

You're correct, 'clip' is not a good term to use. I've tried to use 'mag' or 'magazine' in all of my posts but that one was written in a hurry. However 'assault rifle' is a widely-used and accepted term. I realize that there are negative connotations associated with it, which some people don't like, but the term is nearly universally used and accepted.

Widely accepted by those that don't have a clue...an "assault rifle" is by definition a fully automatic rifle which are illegal for normal citizens to own (for the most part).

[Sea Aych]

Widely accepted by those that don't have a clue...an "assault rifle" is by definition a fully automatic rifle which are illegal for normal citizens to own (for the most part).

for the most part? Is there a year of manufacture rule or something?

[CorvallisBMW]

More proof of ignorance. Do a bit more research on the subject and you'll understand.

Your avoidance of the question makes me suspect you aren't ready to back up your statement.

Please explain to me how closing loopholes in a law that already exists will force the creation of a nation-wide gun registry.

[The Dark Side of Will]

Why would it require a national registry? We already have background checks, and there's no registry. How would closing loopholes mandate the creation of one?

There *IS* a registry... just not an official one. The FBI is required to dispose of NICS data within a certain amount of time, and but they haven't and/or won't/can't verify that they are.

So creating an official registry is as easy as admitting that they're already creating an unofficial registry... which would be easy under the current administration.

"Closing loopholes" requires that the Federal government regulate private citizens selling private property to each other. That's a Pandora's Box that no one with any sense wants to open.

And of course "closing loopholes" means expanding the unofficial registry.

Can you find any proof that background checks have prevented any gun crimes?

A NICS denial is NOT proof that a crime was prevented. It's not even proof that the individual didn't get a gun. It just means he didn't get that gun from that licensed dealer on that occasion.

However 'assault rifle' is a widely-used and accepted term. I realize that there are negative connotations associated with it, which some people don't like, but the term is nearly universally used and accepted.

"Assault rifle" is an accepted term, but you're using it incorrectly.

"Assault weapon" is as meaningless as "affirmative action". I can assault you with a can of tuna, therefore a can of tuna is an assault weapon.

for the most part? Is there a year of manufacture rule or something?

Yes. National Firearms Act made it illegal for Joe Citizen to own an automatic rifle. Weapons already in private hands at the time were grandfathered and are legal for citizens to own. As such, they command high prices (five figures) when they change hands.

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for the most part? Is there a year of manufacture rule or something?

Pre-NFA act firearms are legal to own but they are old and ridiculously expensive. Modern select fire rifles can be owned by law enforcement only. Also Class 3 firearm dealers can own them. Average Joe Blow cannot.

[ParsedOut]

Your avoidance of the question makes me suspect you aren't ready to back up your statement.

Please explain to me how closing loopholes in a law that already exists will force the creation of a nation-wide gun registry.

If I have time today I'll do a simple Google search and give you the links since you obviously can't be bothered to educate yourself on a topic you are soooooooo passionate about.

[marshallnoise]

for the most part? Is there a year of manufacture rule or something?

You have to have certain classes of license to own these types of guns. Requires that the government searches around your prostate for any baddie activity.

More over, a fully automatic small arm is stupid on many levels. A light machine gun is a different story, but those aren't exactly easy to carry into a school or government building and not be noticed.

[The Dark Side of Will]

Yeah, a SAW/M249 is about as light as a light machine gun gets and is still a pretty heavy piece of gear.

[rwh11385]

Your avoidance of the question makes me suspect you aren't ready to back up your statement.

Please explain to me how closing loopholes in a law that already exists will force the creation of a nation-wide gun registry.

Your avoidance of becoming educated about basic concepts of a subject you want to give the impression that you are concerned about leaves you wildly ignorant.

How hard is it to understand? If states allow you to do private party sales between individuals who reside in the same state, the only way to force a background check would be to know if the gun has changed hands without one and the only way to know if a gun changes hands is to know ownership of all the guns - a national gun registry. Of course, these are hard to actually make happen, upset law-abiding citizens (look to CT), and do absolutely nothing to the criminals who trade guns with filed serial numbers and are the actual problem, not Jim Bob selling his hunting rifle to his friend across town and values his freedom and privacy.

[rwh11385]

And calling a civilian semi-auto AR-15 an assault rifle is like calling a 1984 3-speed automatic M10-powered 318 the same as an E30 M3 and a touring car champion because they look similar and potentially have some parts that bolt up. And it is about as obvious and cringe worthy as saying it's a mute point or for all intensive purposes... or calling a BMW car a beamer. It highlights that you have no idea what you are talking about and are a sheep to what people tell you to think because you can't be bothered enough to do any research or get an understanding before you judge or campaign for change about something you know nothing about.

[BraveUlysses]

intensive purposes? really? you know better than that

[rwh11385]

intensive purposes? really? you know better than that

Rif.org bro

[BraveUlysses]

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intensive purposes? really? you know better than that

[agent]

as obvious and cringe worthy as saying it's a mute point or for all intensive purposes... or calling a BMW car a beamer. It highlights that you have no idea what you are talking about

He's not saying it, he's using it as an example.