Enough about guns, what's with all the illegal immigrants!?

[einhander]

who said anything about equal outcomes? liberal statism? WTF are you talking about?

He just likes using fancy words to compensate for the fact that he's actually a clueless blowhard.

[z31maniac]

Equal opportunity =/= equal outcome.

Classical Liberalism =/= liberal statism.

Apples =/= oranges.

!=

[nando]

why does it matter? do I need your permission before replying to somebody's post?

I was just stating some of the welfare items I think should be cut back. At least you're aware of your own hypocrisy I guess.

who said anything about equal outcomes? liberal statism? WTF are you talking about?

[marshallnoise]

I wasn't implying anything. You made that up in your own mind.

Nahh, I don't think so.

In fact, if it was so obvious that when people complain about "welfare" they mean both social programs as well as corporate subsidies, then your post is redundant, because then you have said the same thing that was already common knowledge.

But since you went to the effort of specifically calling out corporate "welfare" you inherently imply that those who complain about social services turn a blind eye to subsidies.

Still, was BraveUlysses talking to you in the first place? Or did I make that up in my own mind too?

[einhander]

You have a hard time reading, don't you?

No.

Why?

[marshallnoise]

I think Lenin was quiet on global warming. Can't prove it though.

Also, the Constitution may have some oblique reference to equality for different people. Not totally sure.

Those Leninists are subversive characters though - they could be lurking everywhere.

Kook.

You have a hard time reading, don't you?

[marshallnoise]

hey now, we all know the founding fathers were a bunch of lazy leaching leftists. Equal rights for all, pffft!

Equal opportunity =/= equal outcome.

Classical Liberalism =/= liberal statism.

Apples =/= oranges.

[einhander]

hey now, we all know the founding fathers were a bunch of lazy leaching leftists. Equal rights for all, pffft!

Seriously. What a bunch of Leninist cocksuckers.

Don't even get me started on the Bill of Rights - sheer pinko-commie propaganda.

[nando]

hey now, we all know the founding fathers were a bunch of lazy leaching leftists. Equal rights for all, pffft!

[einhander]

well its true some people, some in power even, scary I know! dwell on the past and it dosen't allow the world to move forward such as not believing in global warming or universal rights for all creeds and orientation it's just ass backwards that we even still use religious based values.

What you espouse are talking points from Leninists from all eras . It is an old, tired ideology that had a facade of caring with a motivation of subjugation. The individual is lost for the betterment of the collective.

Why entertain a failed ideology?

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I think Lenin was quiet on global warming. Can't prove it though.

Also, the Constitution may have some oblique reference to equality for different people. Not totally sure.

Those Leninists are subversive characters though - they could be lurking everywhere.

Kook.

[nando]

I wasn't implying anything. You made that up in your own mind.

[marshallnoise]

Was I responding to you?

No, but you were implying very clearly that those who don't like social services were somehow in favor of business subsidies otherwise known as corporate welfare.

I just wanted make sure I wasn't thrown into that generalization like many are prone to do.

But, was BraveUlysses talking to you too? Hardly.



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[nando]

Was I responding to you? Did I say anything about what you thought?

I think some of you nuts come in here just for the sake of arguing.

[marshallnoise]

let's start with all those welfare programs for oil companies and military contractors.

Just so you have it on record, I don't believe in subsidies for corporations either. Now fit me in the box again.

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[nando]

Why don't you get specific with this (poor) argument and tell us exactly which programs should be cut, and why they should be cut?

let's start with all those welfare programs for oil companies and military contractors.