Water shutoff in Detriot.

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  • rhE-30
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2011
    • 498

    #1

    Water shutoff in Detriot.

    A severe water crisis in financially bankrupt Detroit has prompted several NGOs to appeal for UN intervention.


    Discuss. IMO this is crazy to cutoff something that is essential to life.
  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #2
    No pay, no service.

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    • rhE-30
      E30 Addict
      • Oct 2011
      • 498

      #3
      I'm going to put out a public service announcement in Detroit that the is plenty of free water in Idaho.

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      • Farbin Kaiber
        Lil' Puppet
        • Jul 2007
        • 29502

        #4
        It's not a humanitarian crisis when someone does not pay their bills. It's a humanitarian crisis when there is NO access to water. Detroit seems to have the infrastructure to provide water to it's residents, the only ones having issues are those that do not pay their bills. I read an article that showed this is a manufactured crisis because the day after the water gets shut off, the resident comes in and pays their bill to regain access to the transmission of water.

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        • Farbin Kaiber
          Lil' Puppet
          • Jul 2007
          • 29502

          #5


          What is the cost of the water I use in my home?

          Prices can vary. Typical cost is about $2 for 1,000 gallons. At this price, you can get 5 gallons of tap water for about penny.
          It's not like they are being charged the rate of bottled Dasani/Aquafina water. And, if they cannot afford to pay for their water, there are welfare programs designed to help in these exact situations. Now, I'd like to see a study that sees how many of these people that cannot afford water have TV's, cell phones, and other luxury devices and items. I'm sure there would be a majority of people that cannot afford water in Detroit that are living WAYYY above the levels people most commonly receiving assistance from the UN in other third world countries.

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          • LSM3
            Grease Monkey
            • May 2012
            • 340

            #6
            Originally posted by rhE-30
            I'm going to put out a public service announcement in Detroit that the is plenty of free water in Idaho.
            But you still have to live in Idaho. Lol

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            • rhE-30
              E30 Addict
              • Oct 2011
              • 498

              #7
              If we lived in a world where an individual could walk to a stream, river or lake to have a drink I might agree you, but in areas abandoned by industry it's likely not easy to determine what is safe to drink.

              Then there are the sanitation, or lack there of, aspects. We all know cholera has never killed anybody. *sarcasm.

              I guess it's all cool, till it happens to you.

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              • rhE-30
                E30 Addict
                • Oct 2011
                • 498

                #8
                Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                there are welfare programs designed to help in these exact situations. Now, I'd like to see a study that sees how many of these people that cannot afford water have TV's, cell phones, and other luxury devices and items.
                If these programs are there, then I wonder what is going on. Also what is the thought process that brings someone to think, I'll pay my cell phone bill rather than keeping the water on.

                Where I live the electricity, trash, sewer, and water are on the same bill, so if I can't afford one, I have none.

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                • rhE-30
                  E30 Addict
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 498

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LSM3
                  But you still have to live in Idaho. Lol
                  I live in Southern California. There going to shut off my water because we're running out of it, not because I can't pay for it.

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                  • Farbin Kaiber
                    Lil' Puppet
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 29502

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rhE-30
                    If we lived in a world where an individual could walk to a stream, river or lake to have a drink I might agree you, but in areas abandoned by industry it's likely not easy to determine what is safe to drink.

                    Then there are the sanitation, or lack there of, aspects. We all know cholera has never killed anybody. *sarcasm.

                    I guess it's all cool, till it happens to you.
                    I've got a huge river in my backyard, I can walk to water. Granted, I had to pack up and leave the Metro Los Angeles area to have that access, but it was my choice. If the infrastructure for access to a 'basic human right' does not exist in Detroit (which it does), then the residents should look to moving to another place where these vital services are provided, or accessible.

                    Originally posted by rhE-30
                    If these programs are there, then I wonder what is going on. Also what is the thought process that brings someone to think, I'll pay my cell phone bill rather than keeping the water on.

                    Where I live the electricity, trash, sewer, and water are on the same bill, so if I can't afford one, I have none.
                    When you create an entitlement society, while simultaneously fueling a fame/riches based desire in the populous as opposed to a strong desire to work and labor to provide for oneself, this is the inevitable result. Next, we will hear about the UN and the US having to go in and prop up people that can't pay for their heat in cold climates, or their cooling in hot ones, and then, we will need to provide access to media/communications a la the Lifeline Assistance Program where people are given subsidized cellular telephones, when there is already an infrastructure for landline phones almost everywhere in the United States. Next, everyone is going to begin claiming Internet Access is a basic human right.

                    If you don't understand the mindset of keeping the utilities on and forsaking the cellular bill, you are likely in a minority in our country, sad to say.

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                    • mrsleeve
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 16385

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rhE-30
                      If we lived in a world where an individual could walk to a stream, river or lake to have a drink I might agree you, but in areas abandoned by industry it's likely not easy to determine what is safe to drink.
                      .
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                      • marshallnoise
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 3148

                        #12
                        Oh holy hell that is a dumb article. Water is a human right? What the hell? Yeah, go and get your water. Or pay someone to do it for you. Do these folks not understand that paying for water is actually paying for transportation of water?

                        Can't wait to see what Obama is gonna do about this.
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                        • cale
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2331

                          #13
                          Many of those affected by the shut-offs were given no warning.
                          Lol, yea fucking right. I'm likely not going to get a call from my cell provider telling me to expect my services to shut off in the next few minutes, I'm going to be able to deduce as a reasonably intelligent person that bills gone un-paid will likely result in a loss of service.

                          Originally posted by marshallnoise
                          Can't wait to see what Obama is gonna do about this.
                          That thirsty smelly kid could've been my son!

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                          • rhE-30
                            E30 Addict
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 498

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber

                            If you don't understand the mindset of keeping the utilities on and forsaking the cellular bill, you are likely in a minority in our country, sad to say.
                            hmm, that statement was sort of rhetorical or sarcastic or whatever, it came off wrong..


                            I hope there are Detroit members that want to chime on what is going on.

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                            • Farbin Kaiber
                              Lil' Puppet
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 29502

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rhE-30
                              I hope there are Detroit members that want to chime on what is going on.
                              They would, but they didn't pay their internet bill.

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