This is disconcerting

[marshallnoise]

I don't have a problem with a militarized police force so long as the public is in charge of them. So long as they can't hide from their activity, reasons for being militarized, who they are targeting. But it is clear they don't want to share those things. But the drug war leading to militarization of the police is a symptom, not the cause. Tyranny is the cause.

FYI, I agree that the drug war is silly. I think druggies who over dose should be left where they are. Or buy private health insurance specifically for drug users.

[nando]

actually, I think that is the point - that our police force is becoming increasingly militarized. Hiding behind a special corporation is just another step in the wrong direction.

[marshallnoise]

I don't see what that has to do with my point. SWAT teams and military tactics were specifically adopted primarily to bust drug operations. Now they've adapted those tactics to whatever they damn well please. Couldn't have got there without the drug war as a stepping stone.

The issue is not that SWAT teams are using military tactics. The issue is that they are calling a SWAT team a non-profit to skirt an open and transparent government.

Now does my comment make more sense?

Blaming the drug war completely misses the point. Might as well as toss a squirrel off to the side of the interwebz chat room.

[nando]

I don't see what that has to do with my point. SWAT teams and military tactics were specifically adopted primarily to bust drug operations. Now they've adapted those tactics to whatever they damn well please. Couldn't have got there without the drug war as a stepping stone.

[marshallnoise]

no of course not, but that is the path that lead us to where we are now.

Pretty sure tyranny predated the drug war.

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[nando]

no of course not, but that is the path that lead us to where we are now.

[marshallnoise]

this is just another result of our ridiculously costly drug war, in terms of lives, liberty, and money.

It isn't only about drugs nando.

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[nando]

this is just another result of our ridiculously costly drug war, in terms of lives, liberty, and money.

[cabriodster87]

Yeah, that's some gestapo shit right there.

Immediately the first thing i thought.

[ParsedOut]

I just like it when sleeve makes a post so I can admire the vulgar display of cleavage in his profile pic.

In related news, the gov't doesn't give a fuck about individual liberties. We appoint them to handle this messy stuff and represent us so the brain dead masses can focus on the newest iPhone release. It's just another step closer...

[marshallnoise]

I suppose so but much less of an audacious fuck off we will do as we please, that way though

True.

[mrsleeve]

I suppose so but much less of an audacious fuck off we will do as we please, that way though

[marshallnoise]

True. But that's not the point

Well it is the same point executed in a different manner.

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[mrsleeve]

True. But that's not the point

[marshallnoise]

FOIA is a farce anyway. Half of most documents are redacted beyond comprehension.