Israelis in Gaza or Ferguson, MO?

[Dozyproductions]

thread derailment success. 'revisionist history', what a joke.

[Vedubin01]

Keep trying to whitewash history, you're completely wrong and not fooling anybody with your revisionist history.

Actually he is correct. It was fought over economics of cotton in the south and manufacturing in the north. Slavery was brought into it to push the war. You going to tell me that only the south owned slaves in the day?

[smooth]

I don't think smooth answers any inconvenient questions.

I'm wondering why the police haven't made more of this publicly known. Would it help or hinder the effort to restore order?

post #131

just because you get shot in the chest instead of the back doesn't mean you can't be trying to give up when you're shot

apparently some people in this thread think the only legitimate way to give up is run away from the cop and expect Brown to have gunshot wounds entering his back. in post #131 I explain that if Brown was running away, the cop shouts stop running or I shoot, Brown turns around, lifts his arms to surrender, the cop reacts to whatever he thinks is going on maybe thinks Brown has a weapon, and he shoots Brown from the front.

Perfectly consistent with all of the witnesses but doesn't require Brown to run toward a cop pointing a gun at him telling him not to move. No one disputes the altercation in the police car between the two, but that's not when he was shot to death. That happened in the street, when the cop was half a dozen feet from Brown. The dispute is witnesses saying they don't understand why Brown was shot in the street, the cop saying he felt threatened.

Notice how slaterd and z31maniac want so desperately to exonerate the cop: using a sketch as if either of them have any training in trajectory analysis, talking about how the cop having a bruised face somehow corroborates the cop's story...although no one is disputing that there was a fight in the police car. Anything, anything at all, to excuse the police actions.

This thread has turned into a shitfest of racism and bootlicking to excuse this kind of behavior that is all too common in impoverished communities. It's merely bizarre that the same people who claim to be constantly vigilant against government abuse of the people are first in line to shine this cop's boots with their tongue.

the victim was a criminal. Yes he was a criminal as much as you keep trying to pull some lawyer twists and turns to the definition.

fortunately for me, I'm good at research and found my own loop holes to protect myself from others who have tried pulling some law crap to take me down.

Brown, never charged or convicted with any crime, is a "criminal" but slaterd because he's "good at research" found himself some loop holes to protect himself from "some law crap" taking him down.

You see how these guys think the system operates? Apparently, when black kids get shot justice is served or when black people don't get punished severely enough in their opinion the law is broken. When white people are accused of something the law is broken.

[slaterd]

I'm saying I believe the cop's story because he is the officer, the victim was a criminal. Yes he was a criminal as much as you keep trying to pull some lawyer twists and turns to the definition. Also, the autopsy lines up with what the officer has said along with other witnesses. While on Brown's side, witnesses have been bouncing around on the testimony and have given statements that have been proven wrong by other accounts. You know "fuck da police" thing.

This nation needs to quit glorifying and protecting criminals.
"The cops abuse their power and take advantage of their power in impoverished, inner cities" WELL QUIT BREAKING THE FUCKING LAW! I'd have 0 patience too if I had to deal with the same criminals doing the same shit everyday too.

As I've said before to my friends, this nation's policies and social structure seems to only help out those who are breaking the law, not for those that abide by it. I've experienced it first hand myself and fortunately for me, I'm good at research and found my own loop holes to protect myself from others who have tried pulling some law crap to take me down.

Also, the person using the sketch was ME, not Z31. Also I said at the very beginning "I am not expert, but"......

[z31maniac]

I didn't post the sketch, but I realize it's hard to see things properly from your altitude.

There are numerous witnesses that also back-up the officers story that the kid starting charging him AGAIN.

As far as wanting to exonerate the over-militarized, shoot first, ask questions later police? Hardly. I have a big problem with police brutality and the huge overreactions to situations. Shooting dogs on private property while chasing suspects, no-knock warrants, serving warrants on the wrong houses, beating the mentally ill, etc.

I think last year 70 officers were killed on duty vs 1800+ civilians that were shot dead by the police. We have a serious policing problem in this country.

However,

1. Cop asks kid to get out of street.
2. Kid charges cop and beats him while going for his gun.
3. Kid retreats then charges again.
4. Cop shoots kid dead.

WTF did he expect to happen after beating a police officer and going back for more?

[QUKBMER]

However,

1. Cop asks kid to get out of street.
2. Kid charges cop and beats him while going for his gun.
3. Kid retreats then charges again.
4. Cop shoots kid dead.

WTF did he expect to happen after beating a police officer and going back for more?

This ^^^^^^ !!!!!!!!!!!! I also hate this shit that when a black kid/or adult gets shot by a white cop its racist. If a black cop shoots a white kid/or adult and kills him... what ? no big deal life goes on. If a black cop shoots and kills a black kid/or adult or of a different race no big deal life goes on. I spit on this racists shitz,i'm very tired of it and the horse has been beat to death already 1000 times over on the racist card.

[smooth]

This ^^^^^^ !!!!!!!!!!!! I also hate this shit that when a black kid/or adult gets shot by a white cop its racist. If a black cop shoots a white kid/or adult and kills him... what ? no big deal life goes on. If a black cop shoots and kills a black kid/or adult or of a different race no big deal life goes on. I spit on this racists shitz,i'm very tired of it and the horse has been beat to death already 1000 times over on the racist card.

so you're on board with the most idiotic question on the board? What did Brown think was going to happen once he charged an armed cop in the street?

Well, this may be a huge shock to you, but regardless of how stupid you think black people are none are stupid enough to believe that they won't be shot when they do that...which would tend to argue that'd be the last thing an unarmed kid would actually do in real life

[slaterd]

so you're on board with the most idiotic question on the board? What did Brown think was going to happen once he charged an armed cop in the street?

Well, this may be a huge shock to you,but regardless of how stupid you think black people are none are stupid enough to believe that they won't be shot when they do that...which would tend to argue that'd be the last thing an unarmed kid would actually do in real life

How about the thought "I'm unarmed...he can't shoot me"?

but regardless of how stupid you think black people are none are stupid enough to believe that they won't be shot when they do that

Also...I'm the racist? LOL.

[smooth]

btw, few of us in here aren't arguing that the cop shooting the kid was racism in a bottle

we pointed out that the people straining themselves to exonerate the cops they claim elsewhere to be so wary of is because this is a black victim who doesn't merit their concern.

we've got guys saying that he was a criminal, even though he hasn't been charged or convicted
we've got one who keeps saying it doesn't matter if he's charged or convicted or not, he's a criminal in his eyes regardless
got one saying that he's got an urban black friend and if anyone knows racism it'd be his black friend
he also lives in "little mexico" so can't be racist
have another one talking about his racist cop buddy and how he can understand what he goes through every day
got a few saying that looting during all this is just a black thing, wondering why "they're" so dumb
got people wondering how any of the above is racist

at least one admits it blatantly:

I'm the racist

the hits keep coming

[ParsedOut]

^^^ this guy is becoming more and more tedious in his oversimplifications and taking comments out of context and twisting them to fit his perspective.

[slaterd]

btw, few of us in here aren't arguing that the cop shooting the kid was racism in a bottle

we pointed out that the people straining themselves to exonerate the cops they claim elsewhere to be so wary of is because this is a black victim who doesn't merit their concern.

we've got guys saying that he was a criminal, even though he hasn't been charged or convicted
we've got one who keeps saying it doesn't matter if he's charged or convicted or not, he's a criminal in his eyes regardless
got one saying that he's got an urban black friend and if anyone knows racism it'd be his black friend
he also lives in "little mexico" so can't be racist
have another one talking about his racist cop buddy and how he can understand what he goes through every day
got a few saying that looting during all this is just a black thing, wondering why "they're" so dumb
got people wondering how any of the above is racist

at least one admits it blatantly:


the hits keep coming

How about the thought "I'm unarmed...he can't shoot me"?

Also...I'm the racist? LOL.

Just so you don't take my stuff out of context as you usually do.

[z31maniac]

And there is this report that contradicts the police:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mike-brown-autopsy/

[slaterd]

^^^ this guy is becoming more and more tedious in his oversimplifications and taking comments out of context and twisting them to fit his perspective.

Because his argument is moot at this point, he knows it, and can only pull the racist card. THAT'S IT!

[smooth]

Because his argument is moot at this point, he knows it, and can only pull the racist card. THAT'S IT!

my argument is solid. the fact that you don't even realize how your racist drivel comes across to people is disturbing

there are no black youth in this country believing that the cops can't shoot them, armed or unarmed.

[QUKBMER]

Would you agree with me though that if this whole situation went down and a non white cop pulled the trigger, that this would not have happened with riots and getting out of hand?