Am I the only person who likes Bernie?

[marshallnoise]

Keynes. That's the policy we should loath.

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[gwb72tii]

Keynes. That's the policy we should loath.

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Bernanke advised the bank of japan to go the route of massive government stimulus back in I think 2001. They've been in a deflationary spiral since and now have a 250% debt/gdp ratio. They're fucked financially and will be for a long time, unless they default.............

But hey, let's try it again in the USA. Maybe it'll work this time.

[Kershaw]

I guess gwb ignores that nearly all new wealth since 2008 has been concentrated in the top 1% while inflation has risen and purchasing power reduced for most everyone else.

No! The rich are paying more taxes than ever before and it's not fair to them! We need more tax breaks for the rich to stimulate the economy!

If the horses are well fed with oats, some oats will pass through their gut undigested and the sparrows can then eat those oats that are now freely laying on the roads! This is basic horse and sparrow/trickle down economics and it works! Praise Reagan!

[pandaboo911]

No! The rich are paying more taxes than ever before and it's not fair to them! We need more tax breaks for the rich to stimulate the economy!

If the horses are well fed with oats, some oats will pass through their gut undigested and the sparrows can then eat those oats that are now freely laying on the roads! This is basic horse and sparrow/trickle down economics and it works! Praise Reagan!

Bahahaha


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[gwb72tii]

No! The rich are paying more taxes than ever before and it's not fair to them! We need more tax breaks for the rich to stimulate the economy!

If the horses are well fed with oats, some oats will pass through their gut undigested and the sparrows can then eat those oats that are now freely laying on the roads! This is basic horse and sparrow/trickle down economics and it works! Praise Reagan!

so again you infer by your comments that when your neighbor earns an extra dollar he somehow takes it from you? care to explain? or why it's unfair?

[BraveUlysses]

so again you infer by your comments that when your neighbor earns an extra dollar he somehow takes it from you? care to explain? or why it's unfair?

Nobody is talking about their neighbor earning an extra dollar, we're talking about gross wealth inequality while you concern troll for "unfortunate" billionaires who "pay more than their fair share" of taxes.

[Wschnitz]

The whole argument isnt about your neighbor earning an extra few grand over you in my opinion.

Its when large companies like banks and retailers make ridiculous amounts of money at a steady increase each year, and dont pass that down to their employees, rather taking all the extra profit for upper management. Then when the market crashes, even if by their fault, says otherwise and takes bailout money to pad their pockets some more, then lay off their employees.

Companies like Walmart, Time Warner, etc, shouldn't be so far in the black and still have employees on welfare/food stamps so they can feed their family...

[marshallnoise]

You guys are commies. Everything being said is textbook Marxist theory. I really wonder what the world would look like if you were in charge.

[Wschnitz]

Lol still living in the red scare I see.

I'm sure Reagan will rise out of his grave and pat you on the back.

[marshallnoise]

Lol still living in the red scare I see.

I'm sure Reagan will rise out of his grave and pat you on the back.

Scared? Haha!

I am just calling a red a red in this instance.

EDIT: Come to think about it, you hate investors too because when Walmart makes a profit, it's for the benefit of its investors, which are your parents, grandparents, friends, everyone. So you hate everyone, but you don't know it.

[Wschnitz]

'Everything that isnt Capitalism is Communism' - Marshall (basically)

I don't hate investors, I hate when someone makes millions of dollars, then complains about government regulation hurting their business, causing them to lay off employees they already barely pay.

Its no different then how the government already is now, why am I paying taxes to senators like Rubio who never fucking show up to do their job, and when they do show up its to argue for a raise or threaten a government shutdown. Id rather my tax money go to people who actually need it, or to myself in the form of healthcare and benefits, not overpaid congressmen and senators.

But to you it appears as a bigger heresy to give healthcare to poor and vets, and the current status quo is just fine.

I want a country without fuckin homeless everywhere in every city. Less regulation and lower wages wont do that FYI, especially in cities where cost of living is so retarded that teachers, firemen, and other basic jobs end up never being filled because its not possible to live in the city on that wage for that job.

[marshallnoise]

'Everything that isnt Capitalism is Communism' - Marshall (basically)

Well, isn't that true? Things either go one way or the other.

I don't hate investors, I hate when someone makes millions of dollars, then complains about government regulation hurting their business, causing them to lay off employees they already barely pay.

The reason why there is demand to make a profit is because there is demand to self-sustain and to make profit for investors, otherwise the company dies. It doesn't exist to give people jobs. It never has and it never will.

Its no different then how the government already is now, why am I paying taxes to senators like Rubio who never fucking show up to do their job, and when they do show up its to argue for a raise or threaten a government shutdown. Id rather my tax money go to people who actually need it, or to myself in the form of healthcare and benefits, not overpaid congressmen and senators.

I could argue that I would rather pay for someone to NOT pass laws because more laws = less freedom. That's a different discussion.

Your argument is a red herring when talking about Rubio. A better argument would be for eliminating the DOD so you can make sure everyone has a cell phone, free health care and free shelter.

But to you it appears as a bigger heresy to give healthcare to poor and vets, and the current status quo is just fine.

Vets should be taken care of, under Obama, they haven't. Before that, they were fine. The poor (not artificially poor) have always been able to get health care, it just wasn't dignified.

Either way, this current system is totally fucked. And if it was bad before Obamacare, it is way worse now. Everyone is paying twice as much for healthcare, period. Don't believe me? Look at your deductibles before Obamacare and then look at them after. You just got your ass handed to you.

I want a country without fuckin homeless everywhere in every city. Less regulation and lower wages wont do that FYI, especially in cities where cost of living is so retarded that teachers, firemen, and other basic jobs end up never being filled because its not possible to live in the city on that wage for that job.

Most homelessness is due to mental health issues so giving them money and government benefits won't help them either. Sometimes, people can't be helped.

And I am unaware of many places where teachers, firemen and "other basic jobs (ironically, you started with government jobs)" are not being filled.

I don't think you have lived enough and embraced reality quite long enough to draw the conclusions you have come to.

[Kershaw]

Well, isn't that true? Things either go one way or the other.

Ah, ladies and gentlemen, here we see the ultimate product of a two party system. This harsh, black/white, us/them, has grown to such a large over arching mentality that it truly encompasses all trains of thought. It's either capitalism or communism. No other forms of government exist.

I'm glad you brought up Walmart though. The fucking poster child of government hand outs. It profits on the welfare subsidies the rest of us pay for it's underpaid employees. Walmart is a hoover vacuum, sucking wealth out of local communities.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Walmart is a hoover vacuum, sucking wealth out of local communities.

That exists and continues to because people vote for it with their dollars. As always, the people have the power to make the change. We don't need the government to do it for us.

[marshallnoise]

Ah, ladies and gentlemen, here we see the ultimate product of a two party system. This harsh, black/white, us/them, has grown to such a large over arching mentality that it truly encompasses all trains of thought. It's either capitalism or communism. No other forms of government exist.

I'm glad you brought up Walmart though. The fucking poster child of government hand outs. It profits on the welfare subsidies the rest of us pay for it's underpaid employees. Walmart is a hoover vacuum, sucking wealth out of local communities.

There aren't other forms of government, unless you say no government is a form, then there are three. Yes, there are mashups of each system and there are many iterations of it, but they are all defined by being capitalist or socialist in theory. You cannot escape that.

Can you explain how Walmart is sucking wealth out of local communities? That's a massive claim. And I will enjoy your attempts at proving that.