Hillary Sucks.

[gwb72tii]

please post up links to whoever discredited the book?

[nando]

^Dude, there's an ENTIRE thread for him.^



If you can get past the visuals. Ruins it a little. Just came out.

again, this is based on a widely discredited book. It's not even new.

I get that Clinton does and says things that make us want to smack our foreheads in disgust - but this is purely in the territory of wild speculation and outright falsification.

Like assuming Trump isn't releasing his taxes because of ties to the Russians. I think that's pretty unlikely, and I'm not exactly a fan of Trump.

[BraveUlysses]

..I like how with even all those "False" determinations by Politifact, very few "Pants on Fire.."

Your bias is showing Politifact.

She's a lawyer so of course she's going to word her speech to avoid outright lies.

Your inability to determine a bias, is showing.

[djjerme]

..I like how with even all those "False" determinations by Politifact, very few "Pants on Fire.."

Your bias is showing Politifact.

[mrsleeve]

since we had a talking points fact check form mr trump hers one for the waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

[M-technik-3]

Fox posted the movie.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/07/27/watch-full-clinton-cash-movie

[Dozyproductions]

the movie is an eye opener, and not just because it's clinton. i have no doubt this shit goes on with politicians in both parties, but the clintons seem to have perfected the art of pay to play.
both parties need to be blown up, and trump has a head start.

Scary huh? How can nothing be safe from enough money? Then they make movies like Charlie Wilson's War and glorify it. No doubt that weapons sales and contracts were as much part of the deal as the freedom he was trying to enable. As I said, a perfect union between corporation and state. It isn't too much to say it.

[roguetoaster]

both parties need to be blown up

Yes!

Heaven forbid candidates have to take independent actual stances on topics to differentiate themselves from other candidates doing the same, maybe even in open debate, and not just toe the line on some sort of party plank! Wow!

[gwb72tii]

the movie is an eye opener, and not just because it's clinton. i have no doubt this shit goes on with politicians in both parties, but the clintons seem to have perfected the art of pay to play.
both parties need to be blown up, and trump has a head start.

[Dozyproductions]

^Dude, there's an ENTIRE thread for him.^



If you can get past the visuals. Ruins it a little. Just came out.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

[Dozyproductions]

+1. Consider us conquered if we're divided by a choice that doesn't even exist.

[djjerme]

Clinton or Trump: a douche or turd sandwich.

I think that applies more this election then it did when they first broadcast that episode.

[Dozyproductions]

Collectivism is authoritarianism. Globalism is collectivism. It's accepted by manufactured consent and even though you think we'd have a more informed electorate, corporate run social media and news makes sure it's the other way around. That is what a Mussolini type fascism is and that is what Hillary (since this is her thread) supports. The perfect union between state and corporation. She is the "establishment" candidate after all right?

So let's forget that we are living in some simple crony capitalist system or calling this corporatism. We have a private consortium of banks controlling our money and interest rates, thus our economy. A privately ran military industrial complex heavily influences or dictates our entire foreign policy for the benefits of corporations and politicians alike. We have corporations writing bills. The government, on a 'justified' whim, can intern the entire population, "re organize" the work force, forcefully vaccine us, and take our children. We have different tiers in our justice system and who knows what SCOTUS is thinking a lot of the time. We don't pick the candidates, elections that matter are 'rigged' (at least current DNC status), foreign aid does not mean what we think it means, our bill of rights are a bill of privileges and double speak is the law. We have a million options for sodas but only two for president. It is manufactured consent and a complete illusion of choice.

She can't be touched. We just saw this. Neither can her friends in the global collectivist institutions like the UN, Bilderburg Group, CFR, WTO, and etc. Peace on earth comes tied in a pretty bow but our sovereignty as a nation is being taken apart, one piece at a time because of it and we still haven't seen any peace. She, and therefore "they", are war hawks. She has mentioned that she has no problem with "punishing" Iran, Russia and China, with an emphasis that the nuclear option isn't out of the picture with Iran. She, and progressives and neocons alike, mentions America and Empire in the same breathe. In order to ensure our economic interests, there must only be one empire: us. So who's direct economic interest are those really? It's not to anyone that shares their allegiance to this country and only us by being the consumer. It's been described that you shouldn't look at her as a person but a mere tool for outside agendas that don't necessarily align with ours. This is the lady that will have the button to our nukes and who's already mentioned that she's willing to use it.

Just like you guys trying to defend her or only focus on Trump. Admittedly he's showing signs of an authoritarian but this is nothing new. So were Jackson, Lincoln, Teddy, Wilson, FDR and anyone else that thinks executive orders is a good idea. For a just cause right? It has either gone well or bad yet these orders subvert democracy through authoritarianism.

Let's call it for what it is. We are a fascist country. There is a very cozy relationship between the state and the corporation while sacrificing of the public's civil liberties. We're led that the awful things this country does is making us safer and for the embetterment for us and the world because gosh darn it, who else would do it? They couldn't do it without American exceptionalist non existent morality. Pay your taxes, ask to pay for more, so you can be a functioning member of our grand *insert good descriptive adjective* society and we can continue to afford our fake money and our fake wars.

At times our republic's roots pop up but the collectivist usually wins out over time. The sooner you get it the sooner all of this makes sense. Call me crazy but stop being afraid to put 2 to and 2 together. That is how the public consciousness changes. We have to admit to ourselves that we have fucked up this badly. Until then, we deserve what we get; Clinton or Trump: a douche or turd sandwich.

[supermansocks95]

They are so worried about the threat of being called a racist or anti-feminist or anti-transgender, or what ever hot button derogatory name is in the news this week, that they will always go with the "safe" candidate. And lately, that has been the Dem's.

I'm more of the anti-lying twatsicle and anti-bigot-reality show host kind of person.