Hillary Sucks.

[decay]

Cute. I wasn't referring to anything constitutional. I was talking about society.

no you weren't. you were talking about whether or not laws should or should not exist, and the constitution is our guiding document for that purpose.

nice try at backpedaling, though.

[marshallnoise]

I know I would never convince you - I'm not even trying to, because that would be a waste of time. But there's no way that you can look at everything Trump has said and done for the last year and not come to that conclusion. If he had a D next to his name, you'd be lambasting him like he deserves.

Again, Hilary definitely has serious flaws, and I even pointed out specific things about her that I do not like. That you think Trump is some sort of saint, and that it's all the media's fault - nobody can save you from that but yourself.

Whoa! I haven't even commented on Trump other than saying he is not a racist and that he is no where near as scary as the media is making him out to be.

Views on Trump by Marshallnoise

• DGAF - love this
• Pisses off libs and establishment republicans equally
• Doesn't apologize for much (if at all)
• Is who he is
• Puts foot in mouth from time to time
• Actually cares about this country (I realize he is not as pure as the wind driven snow)
• His hair; its rad
• He is deeply flawed (but much, much less than Hillary IMHO)

Can anyone say that I have been lionizing Trump, with a straight face? No. They can't.

[marshallnoise]

no you weren't. you were talking about whether or not laws should or should not exist, and the constitution is our guiding document for that purpose.

nice try at backpedaling, though.

Ummm. The Constitution corrals the government and protects the people from government.

You do realize that when you quoted "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" you didn't quote the Constitution.

[ahrensNW]

I don't actually live in "B", although I'm from there. And this is probably one of the most conservative areas in the state.

lmfao, Bham is hands down the MOST liberal area in Washington. By a long shot.

[nando]

the city, yes, the county, no. Thar be rednecks, yo. :p

[ahrensNW]

the city, yes, the county, no. Thar be rednecks, yo. :p

Lol, fair enough. I live in bum fuck Egypt eastern Washington, I don't think there's a liberal in a 30 mile radius.

[marshallnoise]

Lol, fair enough. I live in bum fuck Egypt eastern Washington, I don't think there's a liberal in a 30 mile radius.

Must be what heaven is like.

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[decay]

Ummm. The Constitution corrals the government and protects the people from government.

You do realize that when you quoted "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" you didn't quote the Constitution.

show me where i claimed it was.

the ideals, the spirit of the law, the intent, still exist if not canonized.

and apparently you are unaware of this, but the initial intent of the constitution was to protect people from each other.

[marshallnoise]

show me where i claimed it was.

the ideals, the spirit of the law, the intent, still exist if not canonized.

and apparently you are unaware of this, but the initial intent of the constitution was to protect people from each other.

If that was the case, King George would still be in power. Read the Declaration from the beginning to end and tell me where it says my neighbor is the tyrant, the oppressor, the inhibitor of freedom.

You are simply dead wrong.

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[gwb72tii]

You know Nando, things politically are completely fucked up
With two kids I assume honesty/integrity are at the top of the list of ideals to teach them, as I did mine and as my parents did with me, my brother and sister
And now we are faced with two candidates that have so many flaws it's near impossible to vote for either one
Pretty fucked up

[nando]

Fortunately they are young enough to not notice the politics - but they have started a new game called "find the Trump signs" lol.

[gwb72tii]

Can't be many up your way
Both of my kids went to Western

[nando]

There are a few. Trump held a rally here this spring.

They made the game up themselves - thats what i get for teaching them to read young. :p

[Schnitzer318is]

They made the game up themselves - thats what i get for teaching them to read young. :p

Never too early to read. The earlier the better. My father was a reader, I became a reader, my daughter will (she's 2.5 now) as well. Reading early helps build confidence and of course allows your imagination to explore things much more fully than a TV show or movie. Not that I have anything against film media.

Does the one who spotted the sign first also get to hit the sibling? Could be a new version of punch buggy. ;)

[BraveUlysses]

You know Nando, things politically are completely fucked up
With two kids I assume honesty/integrity are at the top of the list of ideals to teach them, as I did mine and as my parents did with me, my brother and sister
And now we are faced with two candidates that have so many flaws it's near impossible to vote for either one
Pretty fucked up

*still plans to vote trump*