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    #46
    unfortunately in this cycle, a vote for a 3rd party might a well be a vote for the lying entitled bitch, that is already above the law........... She cant be allowed to become comander and chief, the US military will become a service for hire to the highest bid..... err I mean donation
    Originally posted by Fusion
    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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      #47
      Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
      unfortunately in this cycle, a vote for a 3rd party might a well be a vote for the lying entitled bitch, that is already above the law........... She cant be allowed to become comander and chief, the US military will become a service for hire to the highest bid..... err I mean donation
      i think it's safe to assume that montana will yet again vote red, 9 of the last 10 elections it has.

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        #48
        Yes we tend to elect conservative potus. And dems for everything else. My county is tradirionally staunchly red across the board. But with the massive inFlux of ca. Peeps and other urbanites it's changing fast......
        Originally posted by Fusion
        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
        William Pitt-

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          #49
          Yeah I'm in conservative Upstate NY, but as a whole the state is blue. Me voting for Gary is me voting on principle and not settling for a lesser of two evils... At least that's how I'm justifying it. I know it doesn't count either way.
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            #50
            Originally posted by BobombETA View Post
            Yeah I'm in conservative Upstate NY, but as a whole the state is blue. Me voting for Gary is me voting on principle and not settling for a lesser of two evils... At least that's how I'm justifying it. I know it doesn't count either way.
            IMO he is as bad as Hillary. Look up his stance and the people behind him.

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              #51
              Originally posted by BobombETA View Post
              Yeah I'm in conservative Upstate NY, but as a whole the state is blue. Me voting for Gary is me voting on principle and not settling for a lesser of two evils... At least that's how I'm justifying it. I know it doesn't count either way.
              Hey I have spent a lot of time in upstate NY, If it was not for NYC (yes Albany Binghampton and Bufflo contribute as well) your state would be as red as TX, from what I have seen. I really like upstate, especially around Onenta, copperstown, and the finger lakes and especially the Adirondacks. The people in those areas (out of the bigger towns) seem very down to earth, laid back and generally normal when it comes to the things NY is know for being "difficult" with my kinda people in general.

              Yes a vote for Gary is a fart in the wind and base solely on principal, and making your political stand. I voted for Gary in the last go round, since my county always goes red, though like mentioned before its changing fast (the amount of local tagged prius, MB's Lexus's and highlanders) with Hillbot stickers is getting shocking around here lately). I have not made up my mind, I want to vote for Gary for several reasons, mainly similar mind sets, represents my views the best, and the whole 3rd party thing, and my county always going to a more popular conservative line has allowed me to have my voice for my reasons, with out worry about who my county accutally votes for. This time with the greater numbers that have emigrated to this county in the last 4 years to call it full time home, form the great Liberal stronghold of CA (namely LA and Bay areas) as well as other urban enclaves from around the nation, I dont think I have that luxury this go around, and I feel like the entitled waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles must be stopped at all costs (for many many reasons we have talked about at length). Even if that means I have to vote for someone that is more popular choice by and large, that I really dont like the choice for my own reasons either, really the definition of lesser of 2 evils for me . It should not be this way, but its what we have.

              Like I said I have not made up my mind as vote for principals or stop the waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles , and likely will not until my ballot arrives in the mail....... We shall see what it looks like at the end of next month. Maybe we will get lucky and the bitch will have stroke or something
              Originally posted by Fusion
              If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
              The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


              The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

              Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                #52
                Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
                IMO he is as bad as Hillary. Look up his stance and the people behind him.

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                don't tell people to look up some evidence of your vague accusations, post your sources and discuss them.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                  Hey I have spent a lot of time in upstate NY, If it was not for NYC (yes Albany Binghampton and Bufflo contribute as well) your state would be as red as TX, from what I have seen. I really like upstate, especially around Onenta, copperstown, and the finger lakes and especially the Adirondacks. The people in those areas (out of the bigger towns) seem very down to earth, laid back and generally normal when it comes to the things NY is know for being "difficult" with my kinda people in general.

                  Yes a vote for Gary is a fart in the wind and base solely on principal, and making your political stand. I voted for Gary in the last go round, since my county always goes red, though like mentioned before its changing fast (the amount of local tagged prius, MB's Lexus's and highlanders) with Hillbot stickers is getting shocking around here lately). I have not made up my mind, I want to vote for Gary for several reasons, mainly similar mind sets, represents my views the best, and the whole 3rd party thing, and my county always going to a more popular conservative line has allowed me to have my voice for my reasons, with out worry about who my county accutally votes for. This time with the greater numbers that have emigrated to this county in the last 4 years to call it full time home, form the great Liberal stronghold of CA (namely LA and Bay areas) as well as other urban enclaves from around the nation, I dont think I have that luxury this go around, and I feel like the entitled waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles must be stopped at all costs (for many many reasons we have talked about at length). Even if that means I have to vote for someone that is more popular choice by and large, that I really dont like the choice for my own reasons either, really the definition of lesser of 2 evils for me . It should not be this way, but its what we have.

                  Like I said I have not made up my mind as vote for principals or stop the waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles , and likely will not until my ballot arrives in the mail....... We shall see what it looks like at the end of next month. Maybe we will get lucky and the bitch will have stroke or something
                  Yeah, I list my location as Albany as general reference, but I'm only a few miles south of the Adirondack park. I'm happy you've been able to experience our neck of the woods. The Finger Lakes are especially beautiful. I'll be there next weekend for the Vintage Festival at Watkins Glen.


                  Unfortunately for Gary it's looking less and less likely that he's going to have a chance to participate in the debates. A third voice is exactly what this election needs.
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                    #54
                    this is the nicest political discussion i've ever read on the interwebs!
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                      Like I said I have not made up my mind as vote for principals or stop the waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles , and likely will not until my ballot arrives in the mail....... We shall see what it looks like at the end of next month. Maybe we will get lucky and the bitch will have stroke or something
                      Does that mean you approve of her VP pick?

                      It's sad to see that you're possibly willing to vote for an idiot manchild who couldn't identify the first 10 amendments in a quiz because you're scared of hillary.

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                        #56
                        What does her VP pick have to do with her health issues coming to a head before the election??? That would likely Delay the general, or cancel it all together and only the electoral college would convene, assuming that a last min replacement would be placed by the DNC under their own rules. Frankly from what little I do actually know about her running mate I think he would make a far better POTUS than the waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles, but I digress.

                        Me also thinks senior T is smarter than you give the man credit for, still does not mean I like the idea of him being POTUS as I dont think hes got the temperament to take advice on things he knows little about (after all look at how his campaign is run, he fires those that dont seem to see eye to eye or capitulate to him) and or take criticism well.

                        It is also sad that you seem to imply being willing to vote for a entitled (its MY TURN), corrupt, the law does not apply to me, ethic-less, lies to congress and the electorate UNDER OATH, thieving, sack of shit, that could not "figure" out how Hotmail works. All because you are scarred someone that is not on the inside of the political scene and oh noes 1 percenter wants to make a run at it.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                          that is not on the inside of the political scene
                          IMHO this is specifically why Trump will win in November. There are a lot of folks hoping Trump will give them a reason to vote for him (by not being an asshat for example). It's an anti-incumbent world today. Trump, Farage and la Pen touch on what people are upset with in today's political elite managed world.
                          “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
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                            #58
                            I dont disagree with those sentiments, though I still think there is but a snowballs chance in hell of anyone other than the bitch occupying the white house the next 4. Look at this forum and even outside its usual players that have chimed in here and there, and the media. Its just proof that if you say something enough no matter how outlandish it may be, it will make it true enough to have the desired result. With the media on the side of Hillary and pushing her this hard, and the fact she raised over a hundred mill last month, despite all the BS surrounding her. Nothing will stick to her, because those in control of those agencies were appointed by the guy that wants her as his successor, not to mention they dont want to suddenly decide to shoot them selves in the back of the head or end up in a "aviation accident".....

                            But yes until the election you cant trust most of what the "media" main stream or other wise is telling us. Hell can you even trust the election who knows, it may be like it was in 1980, it may be like it was in 2000 with the ballot dingle berries again, who knows. Its going to be a interesting ride, and we are prolly going to be screwed no matter the outcome......
                            Last edited by mrsleeve; 09-06-2016, 11:47 AM.
                            Originally posted by Fusion
                            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                            William Pitt-

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                              #59
                              "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical"

                              Thomas Jefferson
                              “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                              Sir Winston Churchill

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                                #60
                                and today's joke

                                "In almost every profession - whether it's law or journalism, finance or medicine or academia or running a small business - people rely on confidential communications to do their jobs. We count on the space of trust that confidentiality provides. When someone breaches that trust, we are all worse off for it."

                                Hillary Clinton
                                “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                                Sir Winston Churchill

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