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^Because it happens to all governments.
Because our morals and growth have disappeared.
Because we allow crooks in office instead of prosecuting.
Because we promote drunkenness, promiscuous behavior, self indulgence, and hate.
This is the way of progressives and liberals. Of anyone without guidance. However, nothing is new under the sun. It's all been said and done before.
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Originally posted by LBJefferies View PostWhy is it just assumed that this is the case? Because I personally don't believe this at all but whatever.
Unfortunately, other things that could use changing... won't. National debt, lack of skilled labor jobs, prosecution for white collar crime (including politicians), etc."A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
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Originally posted by Schnitzer318is View PostGDP is growing (albeit very minimally)
Unfortunately, other things that could use changing... won't. National debt, lack of skilled labor jobs, prosecution for white collar crime (including politicians), etc.
http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rateLast edited by R3Z3N; 02-03-2019, 08:42 PM.
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Originally posted by R3Z3N View PostGDP is growing slower than ever. See attachment. It's not fear. It's truth.
Originally posted by R3Z3N View PostBecause our morals and growth have disappeared.
Because we allow crooks in office instead of prosecuting.
Because we promote drunkenness, promiscuous behavior, self indulgence, and hate.
It's all been said and done before."A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
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Originally posted by Schnitzer318is View PostNo one can look outside of themselves anymore to show compassion, empathy, or even just passing thoughtfulness in day to day activities. As I said we do need to prosecute crime in companies and in government. Both Hillary and Trump should be in jail.
Anyway, if we only look at all of the bad shit going on we completely ignore the general basic decency of the vast majority of the inhabitants (not just the citizens!) of this nation on an individual level. As a group, we suck to a large degree, but we don't need to cancel recess for everyone because a few jackasses acted up.
So, even as we all disagree vehemently on a large number of topics and vision for the future I wish we could all take a few moments to consider that we are all working towards the betterment of the place we call home. This means that we should at least try to listen to others without dismissing their ideas out of hand even if they seem crazy at first, after all, the truth is almost always somewhere in the middle of both ends of the spectrum of what the media spits out.
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Originally posted by roguetoaster View PostSo, even as we all disagree vehemently on a large number of topics and vision for the future I wish we could all take a few moments to consider that we are all working towards the betterment of the place we call home. This means that we should at least try to listen to others without dismissing their ideas out of hand even if they seem crazy at first, after all, the truth is almost always somewhere in the middle of both ends of the spectrum of what the media spits out.
I don't agree that we are all here trying to better our country for everyone. I think a large number of the population (and those running it) are only concerned with bettering their own circumstances. That applies to people of all classes, races, and religions.
As for disagreeing the two of these candidates should be in jail... that's fine, you are obviously entitled to that opinion. Remember, Martha Stewart was jailed for insider trading that every member of Congress is able to partake in with impunity. Banking CEO's went unpunished for blatant fraud in 2008. I am of the belief that there probably is enough evidence for Hillary to go to jail, if only for a short amount of time. I remember Whitewater as well. And Trump... hell his courtroom career is littered with offenses that warrant jail time. Again, you are welcome to disagree.
There is entirely too much money in politics (coming from all angles/sources) and the temptation too great for most of these career politicians to resist."A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
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Agree with much of what you said, and have said it before that there is a distinct lack of fairness/even application in our judicial process, but we still don't have enough actual, factual information to make more than an assumption that anyone should land in prison (those are a whole other issue too).
I do think that even the most misguided politician is there to do more than line their own pockets or increase their standing. Even if it's just a tiny kernel of patriotism buried deep, deep down.
Glad to hear that there is at least one reasonable person left to confirm my suspicions.
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Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post^Because it happens to all governments.
Because our morals and growth have disappeared.
Because we allow crooks in office instead of prosecuting.
Because we promote drunkenness, promiscuous behavior, self indulgence, and hate.
This is the way of progressives and liberals. Of anyone without guidance. However, nothing is new under the sun. It's all been said and done before.
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Last edited by gwb72tii; 10-19-2016, 02:24 PM.“There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
Sir Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by BraveUlysses View PostNope, its also the way of the no-longer-moral-majority, who are apparently ok with these things in their choice to endorse and vote for trump:
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Originally posted by gwb72tii View PostBut Trump is the bigger agent for change, if that’s what you think the country needs. I want voters to see that choice for what it is.
Who would think that "Change" is the current mantra of people who were overwhelmingly opposed to "change" 8 years ago?
Originally posted by gwb72tii View Posthere holmes, this will make your day
listen to the vid from the most accurate poll historically
http://www.investors.com/politics/tr...tracking-poll/
The IBD/TIPP tracking poll has been cited as the most accurate in predicting actual election results in the past three presidential elections.
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