SCOTUS Potential Filibuster

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  • Wschnitz
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    • Dec 2011
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    #16
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    • marshallnoise
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      • Sep 2013
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      #17
      Originally posted by nrubenstein
      Do you not remember the GOP holding up the nomination of Merrick Garland by refusing to allow it to go to the floor? Are you claiming that that is somehow less novel?
      Different situation though. The Dems didn't control congress and thus were in no position to shove it through. The GOP used what tools they had at the time.

      So yes, it is less novel.
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      • nrubenstein
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        • Feb 2009
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        #18
        Originally posted by marshallnoise
        Different situation though. The Dems didn't control congress and thus were in no position to shove it through. The GOP used what tools they had at the time.

        So yes, it is less novel.
        The ultimate consequence of this is that no President will be able to expect to appoint an SC Justice through a Senate not under his/her party's control. Which is fine, but it's just going to be how it is from now on.
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        • marshallnoise
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          • Sep 2013
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          #19
          Originally posted by nrubenstein
          The ultimate consequence of this is that no President will be able to expect to appoint an SC Justice through a Senate not under his/her party's control. Which is fine, but it's just going to be how it is from now on.
          Unless there is consensus on the nominee. There has been a "like for like" replacement strategy. Garland was not a Scalia type judge and it would have shifted the balance of the supreme court. I am thinking that was the logic in not shoving him on through.

          Now, if the next one to leave the court is one of the liberal judges, then there will be hellfire from the left. I too am surprised the Dems decided to filibuster on this choice. But its their bed to sleep in.
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          • Dagamus(NM)
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            • Mar 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by marshallnoise
            Unless there is consensus on the nominee. There has been a "like for like" replacement strategy. Garland was not a Scalia type judge and it would have shifted the balance of the supreme court. I am thinking that was the logic in not shoving him on through.

            Now, if the next one to leave the court is one of the liberal judges, then there will be hellfire from the left. I too am surprised the Dems decided to filibuster on this choice. But its their bed to sleep in.
            Meh. I am sick of hearing about the worthless filibuster. Good riddance.

            Simple majority is what it will be. The ability to prevent a hearing for a nomination should be removed. Complete troll tactic regardless of who is doing it. I hope McConnell gets cancer in his turtle testicles.
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            • marshallnoise
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              • Sep 2013
              • 3148

              #21
              Originally posted by Dagamus(NM)
              Meh. I am sick of hearing about the worthless filibuster. Good riddance.

              Simple majority is what it will be. The ability to prevent a hearing for a nomination should be removed. Complete troll tactic regardless of who is doing it. I hope McConnell gets cancer in his turtle testicles.
              I listened to about 12 hours of the complete bullshit that the judiciary committee was dishing out when they were interviewing Gorsuch. It really had less to do with interviewing and more to do with political posturing. The whole process is a farce.

              And I don't wish McConnell gets cancer, but I want him gone and I want Ryan gone too. Probably for different reasons than you.
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              • mbonder
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                • Feb 2004
                • 2255

                #22
                I don't like either of them either, and haven't for a long time, what's your reasoning?

                I also think the nomination process is just a chance for various politicians to circle-jerk each other and enhance their celebrity. Should just be an up or down vote, it's all along party lines at this point anyway, why waste anyone's time trying to "investigate credentials"

                Maybe I'm cynical about it, but I just don't see the point in any of it.

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                • marshallnoise
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 3148

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mbonder
                  I don't like either of them either, and haven't for a long time, what's your reasoning?

                  I also think the nomination process is just a chance for various politicians to circle-jerk each other and enhance their celebrity. Should just be an up or down vote, it's all along party lines at this point anyway, why waste anyone's time trying to "investigate credentials"

                  Maybe I'm cynical about it, but I just don't see the point in any of it.
                  I agree with you about the nomination process. It is a circle-jerk.

                  McConnell and Ryan are establishment, big government, elite "r"epublicans. They don't like Trump because he is an outsider. So they are blocking shit every opportunity.
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