Let's talk about anarchy!

[decay]

3 sheets already?

have i not already discussed several times how adherents to my platform don't like being told what to do?

you're not going to have much luck with us, starting any paragraph with "you need to".

none of you read, and it's massively irritating to have to keep repeating this shit.

[marshallnoise]

you need to go fuck yourself.

3 sheets already?

[decay]

You need to stop using the word anarchy

you need to go fuck yourself.

[Hooffenstein HD]

You need to stop using the word anarchy, or even "soft anarchy" for what you're describing decay because it really isn't.

Your idea of anarchy only works while you're protected by the laws and regulations of a statist society. Once the laws and regulations of a statist society are no longer present(anarchy), then you no longer have the ability to live in your fantasy utopia because people are not benevolent. They'll take what you have by force.

What you're describing is more like voluntary micro-socialism.

That won't last long either because let's say you get the cancer (the real kind not the liberal kind you're suffering from), and there's no oncologist within your community, you need to travel outside of your community to find another micro socialist community in which there is an oncologist. Now that oncologist is not part of your community so why should he help you? He'll need some kind of remuneration, and he doesn't accept an "IOU one job of equivalent value". the concept of money now comes into play. Now there's lots of people travelling between communities for various reasons, you'll need regulations of how to travel between and deal with different communities. Before long your back in a capitalist driven democratic republic.

[marshallnoise]

[marshallnoise]

you sure do love that "no true scotsman" fallacy.

Its only a fallacy, if its a fallacy. But in this case, coldweatherblue is absolutely right and people can call themselves anarchists while still enjoying all the freedoms afforded by God and the Constitution.

This is kind of like trading in your 1982 Volvo for a 2017 Tesla and making the statement, "I did this for the environment." Oh, and stating the Tesla is great because it is environmentally friendly and doesn't use petroleum products.

[decay]

Slab City is not an anarchist community, no matter what Vice magazine says it is.

you sure do love that "no true scotsman" fallacy.

only one of the two of us has actually set foot there.

[marshallnoise]

well, they're still waiting down in slab city.

which is a community, not one individual, and has existed for years; i was down there in 2014 and it's still there now.

so, wrong- you *can* have a pocket of anarchy. you not being aware that such pockets exist is not proof that they don't.

Slab City is not an anarchist community, no matter what Vice magazine says it is.

[decay]

You do understand that you don't really believe in anarchy if you only are anarchistic for your own person, right? You can tell yourself you are an anarchist and that you live that way, but you can't even have a pocket of anarchy within this country. All a pocket of anarchy is in this country is a group of people who the law has not prosecuted yet.

Yet.

well, they're still waiting down in slab city.

which is a community, not one individual, and has existed for years; i was down there in 2014 and it's still there now.

so, wrong- you *can* have a pocket of anarchy. you not being aware that such pockets exist is not proof that they don't.

[marshallnoise]

So you admit, anarchy would not work as a political system. The only reason you're able to live the way you do is because as a US citizen you have the freedom to do so.

This is not a legitimate discussion of anarchy as a political system but an example of why the US is a great country.

Yep. I agree with this.

[coldweatherblue]

So you admit, anarchy would not work as a political system. The only reason you're able to live the way you do is because as a US citizen you have the freedom to do so.

This is not a legitimate discussion of anarchy as a political system but an example of why the US is a great country.

[marshallnoise]

pot, kettle. i'm just better at insults than you are :P

Nahh, I think insulting you without getting caught makes me the better shit-slinger.

[marshallnoise]

and this kind of assumption has been the main generator of conflict in this thread.

just a few messages ago...



is it really that hard to read? i'm doing my best not to be adversarial myself, but this is frustrating.

You do understand that you don't really believe in anarchy if you only are anarchistic for your own person, right? You can tell yourself you are an anarchist and that you live that way, but you can't even have a pocket of anarchy within this country. All a pocket of anarchy is in this country is a group of people who the law has not prosecuted yet.

Yet.

[decay]

You get banned for not having control over your temper and getting super personal, instantly. Not the same offense.

pot, kettle. i'm just better at insults than you are :P

[decay]

In a discussion of the pros and cons of anarchy, I would assume that as an anarchist, you believe the greater population would be better off if the entire country/world were in anarchy.

and this kind of assumption has been the main generator of conflict in this thread.

just a few messages ago...

let's get this out of the way- i don't advocate anarchism as something that everyone should subscribe to or live by. i just think it should be an option for those who want it.

is it really that hard to read? i'm doing my best not to be adversarial myself, but this is frustrating.