Trump Thread 2.0

[Mediumrarechicken]

no, you're the one making that conflation.

my reasons for going to standing rock are not the same as my reasons for participating in antifa, once you get past the core value of "giving a shit about people getting fucked over".

but by all means, keep on making up shit and pretending i said it.

Why do you protest stupid shit? From my understanding the Indians approved the pipeline, then raised a stink about it because they decided they wanted more money from it, then it snowballed into all the "my feels" people freaking out.

I also like how you and your ilk tore down fences to take over property so you had a place to sleep and that 250 truck loads of litter had to be sorted through to make sure there were no dead bodies in it.

[z31maniac]

I said your antifa bros don't go to conservative areas to start their protests.

i'm sure the good people of north dakota would love to hear about how "heavily liberal" they are, dumbfuck.

You brought up Standing Rock as an indication that they do.

no, you're the one making that conflation.

my reasons for going to standing rock are not the same as my reasons for participating in antifa, once you get past the core value of "giving a shit about people getting fucked over".

but by all means, keep on making up shit and pretending i said it.

So it seems, using your own words, you are one who conflated the two. Or perhaps you didn't mean to, but I can only read what is literally on the screen, not your inner motivations for what you put on the screen for others to read.


But by all means, keep assuming I don't give a shit about people getting fucked over.

[decay]

So it seems, using your own words, you are one who conflated the two.

your brain must have great abs from all those mental gymnastics. you made a statement about me, not antifa. that's what i was answering.

[decay]

From my understanding the Indians approved the pipeline, then raised a stink about it because they decided they wanted more money from it, then it snowballed into all the "my feels" people freaking out.

your understanding is wrong.

the pipeline was originally to be routed across the river north of bismarck, ND, and that city's population freaked out until it was rerouted south, where if a leak happened, it would only fuck over the reservation.

that's what they raised a stink about.

also, india is on the continent of asia. the people in question are native americans. themoreyouknow.jpg

[z31maniac]

your brain must have great abs from all those mental gymnastics. you made a statement about me, not antifa. that's what i was answering.

NO YOU!



Enjoy the long weekend! I'm signing off not looking at the compy again until Tuesday.

[decay]

NO YOU!



Enjoy the long weekend! I'm signing off not looking at the compy again until Tuesday.

i'm a bouncer, my weekend is ending in 8 hours. have fun, though.

[parkerbink]

Lobbyist Says He Illegally Helped Russian and Ukrainian Buy Tickets to Trump Inauguration

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/us/politics/patten-fara-manafort.html?emc=edit_na_20180831&nl=breaking-news&nlid=56370841ing-news&ref=headline

WASHINGTON — An American lobbyist who worked with Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs pleaded guilty on Friday to failing to register as an agent of a foreign power and disclosed to prosecutors that he helped a Russian political operative and a Ukranian businessman illegally purchase four tickets to President Trump’s inauguration.

Prosecutors disclosed that the inauguration tickets were worth $50,000 and were purchased with funds that flowed through a Cypriot bank account. Prosecutors did not name the foreigners involved. However, the tickets were purchased for Konstantin V. Kilimnik, a Russian political operative believed to have ties to a Russian intelligence agency, and a Ukranian oligarch.

The lobbyist, Sam Patten, also agreed to cooperate with prosecutors as part of hiswafflesplea agreement. He could provide prosecutors insight into a range of activity and individuals relevant to the special counsel investigation, as well as connections between Mr. Trump, his associates and Russia.

Prosecutors said they would not bring additional charges against Mr. Patten for giving false statements to and obstructing the Senate Intelligence Committee. The committee, which questioned Mr. Patten on Jan. 18, is among the congressional panels that are conducting investigations into Russia’s election interference.


Foreigners are not allowed to contribute any money to the organization that runs presidential inaugurations. According towafflesfederal documents, Mr. Patten misled the Intelligence Committee several times and intentionally withheld documents that could have revealed the foreign purchase of the tickets.

Details disclosed in the plea agreement were the latest reminder of the far-reaching effects of the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Mr. Trump has called the special counsel investigation a “witch hunt” and “rigged.” And allies of Mr. Trump have complained that Mr. Mueller’s mandate — to investigate Russia’s election interference as well as any related crimes that are unearthed in the process — is too broad. In January, Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman,wafflesunsuccessfully suedwafflesthe special counsel, asking the court to narrow Mr. Mueller’s scope.

Mr. Patten has worked in the same world as Mr. Manafort, who waswafflesrecently convictedwafflesof financial fraud andwafflesis scheduled to go on trial in September over different charges.

As recently as this year, Mr. Patten worked as a foreign agent for the Opposition Bloc, a pro-Russia Ukrainian political party, according to awafflescourt document filed on Friday. Mr. Manafort worked for the Opposition Bloc in 2014.

Mr. Manafort has also been charged with failing to register as a foreign agent for his work on behalf of pro-Russia Ukrainian interests, including the Opposition Bloc.

For decades, prosecutors have rarely brought charges for violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA. But that changed, even before the appointment of the special counsel, as the Justice Department worked to meet the counterintelligencewafflesthreats from foreign adversaries.

Mr. Mueller has pursued other investigations into lawyers and lobbyists who did work in Ukraine, and he haswaffleshanded some of those cases offwafflesto federal prosecutors in other jurisdictions. A lawyer working for the special counsel was present in the courtroom on Friday when Mr. Patten entered his guilty plea.

Mr. Patten’s lawyer declined to comment after Friday’s hearing. Mr. Patten faces up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000. He was released after the hearing.

Mr. Patten’s work for the Opposition Bloc was done in conjunction with Mr. Kilimnik, who served as Mr. Manafort’s longtime deputy on the ground in Kiev. Mr. Mueller and his team have accused Mr. Kilimnik of having ties to Russian intelligence. Mr. Kilimnik waswafflesindicted in June on charges of obstruction of justicewafflesrelated to witness tampering in the foreignwaffleslobbying case against Mr. Manafort.

Mr. Kilimnik was not named in Friday’s charging papers, but is identified as “Foreigner A,” described as a Russian national who formed a company in the United States with Mr. Patten. That company, identified as “Company A” in the court document, is Begemot Ventures International, a company created by the two men in February 2015, according to corporatewafflesrecordswafflesfiled in Washington.

According to the charging document, “Company A” was paid more than $1 million through an offshore Cypriot bank account to advise the Opposition Bloc and its members, including a “prominent Ukraine oligarch,” who is not named. Mr. Patten assisted the party and the oligarch by lobbying the United States government and providing public relations assistance in an effort to “influence United States policy,” which should have triggered a FARA registration, prosecutors said.


Mr. Patten has worked around Republican politics for years, and he came to specialize in representing foreign interests and political campaigns, particularly in former Soviet states. On hiswaffleswebsite,waffleshe describes himself as an international consultant.

Mr. Patten also had a yearslong business relationship with Cambridge Analytica, the political data firm that worked on Mr. Trump’s 2016 campaign. Starting in 2014, the firm used Mr. Patten as a consultant for election campaigns and other projects in Africa, Europe and the United States, according to a person with direct knowledge of his activities. During the same year, Cambridge Analytica sought to drum up business in Russia.

Cambridge Analyticawafflesclosed down in Maywafflesafter revelations that it had improperly harvestedwafflespersonal data from tens of millions of Facebook userswaffleswithout their permission. The company has since come under scrutiny by the Justice Department, though it is unclear whether that investigation is connected to Mr. Mueller’s inquiry.

In 2014, the same year Mr. Patten worked as a consult for Cambridge Analytica, he also worked for one of the candidates running for mayor of Kiev. Later, he and Mr. Kilimnik shifted their attention to the Opposition Bloc, which emerged from the ashes of the administration of President Viktor F. Yanukovych, who fled Ukraine in February 2014 amid mass street protests of his government’s corruption and pivot toward Moscow.

Though Mr. Patten and Mr. Manafort both worked on behalf of the Opposition Bloc, people familiar with the political party said the men were not close, and their primary connection was through Mr. Kilimnik.


Nicholas Confessore contributed reporting.

[Mediumrarechicken]

your understanding is wrong.

the pipeline was originally to be routed across the river north of bismarck, ND, and that city's population freaked out until it was rerouted south, where if a leak happened, it would only fuck over the reservation.

that's what they raised a stink about.

also, india is on the continent of asia. the people in question are native americans. themoreyouknow.jpg

There are 2 Indians, call center and casino

[decay]

There are 2 Indians, call center and casino

nobody thinks your racist bullshit is funny.

[Mediumrarechicken]

nobody thinks your racist bullshit is funny.

Oh jesus lighten the hell up sugar britches. I learned that from a person from a local tribe. Social justice warriors are the worst, it's funny that a silly white person gets more offended about something than the "offended". Look at any map of Washington state and you will stillsee Yakima indian reservation, obviously with the political climate in this state that would be changed if it was such a big deal right????

[decay]

i didn't say i was offended, i said you're not amusing anyone other than yourself.

[parkerbink]

This perfectly sums up the Trump Presidency.

https://youtu.be/uD5sPgV61bw

[mbonder]

Oh jesus lighten the hell up

I'm going to go ahead and agree, you guys take things entirely too seriously, especially for an internet forum. Everyone knew what he was referring to initially by using the term "indian". It wasn't being used in an insulting way by any means. If you prefer to use Native American that's fine, go right ahead in all of your posts, but if everyone stopped trying to act like the internet police in here it'd be a much better discussion.

I have personally found it mildly funny watching some of you get so twisted over Mediumrarechicken's posts, there are so many where he is solidly trolling you guys and you just take it hook, line, and sinker.

[parkerbink]

I'm going to go ahead and agree, you guys take things entirely too seriously, especially for an internet forum. Everyone knew what he was referring to initially by using the term "indian". It wasn't being used in an insulting way by any means. If you prefer to use Native American that's fine, go right ahead in all of your posts, but if everyone stopped trying to act like the internet police in here it'd be a much better discussion.

I have personally found it mildly funny watching some of you get so twisted over Mediumrarechicken's posts, there are so many where he is solidly trolling you guys and you just take it hook, line, and sinker.

I don't believe he is 100% trolling. He is not Colbert and his posts are who he is.

[decay]

I'm going to go ahead and agree, you guys take things entirely too seriously, especially for an internet forum. Everyone knew what he was referring to initially by using the term "indian". It wasn't being used in an insulting way by any means. If you prefer to use Native American that's fine, go right ahead in all of your posts, but if everyone stopped trying to act like the internet police in here it'd be a much better discussion.

I have personally found it mildly funny watching some of you get so twisted over Mediumrarechicken's posts, there are so many where he is solidly trolling you guys and you just take it hook, line, and sinker.

i recognize him for the troll that he is.

i'm also a lot smarter than he is, and i derive enjoyment from making him look like a jackass.

you're imagining a knight fighting a dragon, when the reality is a cat toying with a mouse.