Trump Thread 2.0

[decay]

for the last goddamned time, i am a leftist, not a liberal. school yourself on the difference, and come to an understanding that political ideology is a spectrum, not a binary value

call me an asshole if you want, but i'm an anarchist asshole, not a democrat asshole

[E30 Wagen]

again, you're trying to be sarcastic, but you're correct

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was actually conceding you dolt. Your chest-thumping and self-aggrandizing is lame and emotional, which I guess pretty well sums up leftist style thinking.

[E30 Wagen]

You should spend less time "calling it out" and more time questioning why it is. Congrats, you can recite statistics, gold star for you.

"why don't kids who were raised by single parents who were also raised by single parents in communities which are in tatters and underfunded schools have better values, that's so self-sabotaging" - Ignorant person who confuses themselves as informed.

We've been through this, and I thought I offered my views on it, but I've yet to hear your solution on how exactly to break the circle of poverty. I gather it involves more school funding but you've got to expand on that because it's too vague. If you need some help clarifying your position maybe this guy will get you started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATOUHpKu_Dw

edit: and for people whining about how it's unfair when I say solutions have to come from within the black community, stuff like this is exactly what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5htvLR20pg

Black leaders, men in particular, stepping up and being role models. It works.

[phillipj]

Boy, leave for a couple days, back now & everything going to hell.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was actually conceding you dolt. Your chest-thumping and self-aggrandizing is lame and emotional, which I guess pretty well sums up leftist style thinking.

Well, he's standing his ground. And, for what it's worth, I definitely took your response as friendly & also conceding. It seemed like we were getting somewhere! Separately, we sure don't get too far by labeling; there's a few people who chip in here and there whose comments deserve labels, but most of us don't neatly fit.

[phillipj]

Interesting development today... Originally looking into only hush-money payments made to cover up affairs, Manhattan DA drops it's expanded to Bank and Insurance fraud:

[E30 Wagen]

It seemed like we were getting somewhere!

Make no mistake, my position is unchanged, I just don't want to sound like Ben Shapiro running his mouth like he does lecturing people. That's not going to change anybody's attitude, nor is constantly insulting somebody's intelligence, Cale.

[nando]

If merely pointing out the obvious cruelty, incompetence, hypocrisy and corruption of Trump and everyone around him makes me a "liberal asshole" - then, guilty as charged. Whatever you label me, doesn't change the fact that he will literally be known as the most hated and incompetent president in history - which is amazing, considering how much people hated GWB on his way out.

His tweet yesterday meets like 3 of 4 the above criteria:

Trump claims right to issue executive order on vote-by-mail

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...g-order-391066

1. Trump has absolutely no power in how the states run their elections. That is defined explicitly in the constitution (not that Trump has ever read it). He seems to think he can rule by decree (tweet).
2. For years the GOP has fought any attempt to regulate state's elections so they can do whatever they want (ie gerrymandering, voter id, etc). Now suddenly, they want to do exactly that?
3. The only reason he wants to stop vote by mail is because he knows he's going to lose. Forcing people to vote in person - some of which will almost certainly get infected and die, is absolutely cruel.

Assuming even some of the GOP voters are not total idiots and actually don't want to get sick and die, the irony is that Trump's bloviating will only serve to suppress his own votes because they will neither trust mail ballots or want to stand in line during a pandemic.

Also if it's not obvious by now, Trump can't do anything to ban TikTok from the USA. Microsoft is taking advantage of the opportunity though, which is smart.

[nando]

Interesting development today... Originally looking into only hush-money payments made to cover up affairs, Manhattan DA drops it's expanded to Bank and Insurance fraud:

He's fighting so hard to keep his tax records private, which is funny since every president in modern history has made theirs public. It's almost like he has something to hide? nahhh, that couldn't be. He's obviously totally and completely innocent, Trump would *never* lie or mislead anyone....

[marshallnoise]

Ok Nando, you are a liberal piece of shit just in general. That better?

Trump has a literal right to issue an executive order on vote-by-mail. He can do that. Whether its enforceable or not, that's a different story because of the courts. If Obama was in office, the courts would allow it as they did with DACA. Trump rescind Obama's DACA EO and the courts told him he couldn't, arbitrarily.

The GOP has never NOT told the states that Voter ID needs to happen. Its the Democrats who think that blacks are too stupid to get a drivers license. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE

And no, he wants to stop vote by mail because EVERYONE AND THEIR FUCKING MOTHER KNOWS IT IS RIFE WITH FRAUD! You have been given this info at least 3 times in the past 2 weeks and you still don't believe it.

And your contention that voting will lead to deaths is absurd. If you truly believe that, you would be pissed at rioters/"peaceful protesters" are spreading Covid like herpes, but you aren't cause you are a double standard applying moron.

And yes, Trump can ban TikTok if he wants to. They are a national security threat and he is the Commander in Chief after all.

There is no requirement for political candidates to disclose their tax records. Would it be better to have them out so idiots like you can shut the fuck up about it? Yeah. But he is just continuing to troll the fuck out of simple people like you.

At least admit that you are a partisan hack who does not think. Please. We all KNOW it, but you need to admit it.

[marshallnoise]

for the last goddamned time, i am a leftist, not a liberal. school yourself on the difference, and come to an understanding that political ideology is a spectrum, not a binary value

call me an asshole if you want, but i'm an anarchist asshole, not a democrat asshole

That's true. You are a leftist. An enemy of the Republic. You'll get what's coming to you eventually.

And if you want to know why people are conflating the difference between leftist and liberal is because liberals (as in Democrats) are now a leftist party who has given up common sense. The Democrats need to take back their party. I know some of you morons think that Republicans harbor and aid NAZIs and the KKK, but that's literally untrue in every sense. Conservatives regulate their fringe and the Democrats do not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxlnlGA5q-0

[nando]

Ok Nando, you are a liberal piece of shit just in general. That better?

Trump has a literal right to issue an executive order on vote-by-mail. He can do that. Whether its enforceable or not, that's a different story because of the courts. If Obama was in office, the courts would allow it as they did with DACA. Trump rescind Obama's DACA EO and the courts told him he couldn't, arbitrarily.

The GOP has never NOT told the states that Voter ID needs to happen. Its the Democrats who think that blacks are too stupid to get a drivers license. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE

And no, he wants to stop vote by mail because EVERYONE AND THEIR FUCKING MOTHER KNOWS IT IS RIFE WITH FRAUD! You have been given this info at least 3 times in the past 2 weeks and you still don't believe it.

And your contention that voting will lead to deaths is absurd. If you truly believe that, you would be pissed at rioters/"peaceful protesters" are spreading Covid like herpes, but you aren't cause you are a double standard applying moron.

And yes, Trump can ban TikTok if he wants to. They are a national security threat and he is the Commander in Chief after all.

There is no requirement for political candidates to disclose their tax records. Would it be better to have them out so idiots like you can shut the fuck up about it? Yeah. But he is just continuing to troll the fuck out of simple people like you.

At least admit that you are a partisan hack who does not think. Please. We all KNOW it, but you need to admit it.

blah blah blah - yep, just ignore what I posted, and then call me names, pretty much what I expected. Get your head out of Trump's ass. It doesn't smell good on you. Ironic that you say I don't think, but you ignore all evidence to the contrary and literally parrot every talking point the Trump administration has ever uttered. Whatever.

Prove that TikTok is a national security threat. I'll wait.

What does Trump have to hide? Why wouldn't he want to clear that up if he's so innocent? You're a fucking joke.

Admit that you're a right wing troll who will believe everything Trump says and does whatever he tells you to do no matter what. Talk about not thinking for yourself.

[MrBurgundy]

Ugh, sorry you can't understand the depth of anything I'm saying.

I didn't say blacks glorify violence dumbass, I said pop culture in black communities does.

So all of your analogies aren't even relative to what I said, since I'm blanketing a whole group, which your analogies are.

Now you saying that your application of the blanket statement to muslims has more historical facts says a lot about you.

"my side...." listen to yourself and how fucking stupid you sound. Like really, "my side does it in the name of God"

Fuck you, I'm not on the radical islam side.

Jihad doesn't mean great crusade dumb shit, it means internal struggle or struggle again those who are against your faith. Not to be a violent terrorist.

"mass shooters are right wing" soooooooooooooo stupid and what a cringy thing to read lol

Are we supposed to take this statement seriously? You literally copy paste right wing talking points.

Copy and paste right wing talking points.. god you're such an idiot, I don't even know why I'm responding to anything you say.

Your anology goes like this.

If you think your not an asshole, but everyone in the room does, then you probably are, right?

Pretty basic stuff.

Does that actually make me one? You're saying it does, but I'm smart enough to know what I'm saying, so when people in the room call me an asshole, I just think to myself, they just don't understand anything I'm saying.

Got it?

Majority rules you're an asshole, so you are... har har har

ASSSSSSSSSSSS backwards buddy.

I hope you don't teach your kids that shit.

That's like telling the nerd kid who gets bullied by the whole school that he is actually a loser because everyone thinks he is.

[phillipj]

Ok Nando, you are a liberal piece of shit just in general. That better?

Trump has a literal right to issue an executive order on vote-by-mail. He can do that. Whether its enforceable or not, that's a different story because of the courts. If Obama was in office, the courts would allow it as they did with DACA. Trump rescind Obama's DACA EO and the courts told him he couldn't, arbitrarily.

The GOP has never NOT told the states that Voter ID needs to happen. Its the Democrats who think that blacks are too stupid to get a drivers license. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE

And no, he wants to stop vote by mail because EVERYONE AND THEIR FUCKING MOTHER KNOWS IT IS RIFE WITH FRAUD! You have been given this info at least 3 times in the past 2 weeks and you still don't believe it.

And your contention that voting will lead to deaths is absurd. If you truly believe that, you would be pissed at rioters/"peaceful protesters" are spreading Covid like herpes, but you aren't cause you are a double standard applying moron.

And yes, Trump can ban TikTok if he wants to. They are a national security threat and he is the Commander in Chief after all.

There is no requirement for political candidates to disclose their tax records. Would it be better to have them out so idiots like you can shut the fuck up about it? Yeah. But he is just continuing to troll the fuck out of simple people like you.

At least admit that you are a partisan hack who does not think. Please. We all KNOW it, but you need to admit it.

Just quoting for posterity. Yours is kinda an awful comment in my opinion! Would you like to respond to any of my questions from a couple pages back where you said you wanted civil war? Why?

Voting by mail is not a problem. It's not fraudulent. We have a pandemic. We have a health crisis. There's no reason we can not have this election by mail if we take proper steps. It should be no problem at all. Certain states already do this as well as other countries around the world. Without problems. I'm certainly not going to vote in person.

I would also like to ask you: Why do you keep standing up for Trump? He is a fraud and a phony.

There is no requirement for political candidates to disclose their tax records. Would it be better to have them out so idiots like you can shut the fuck up about it? Yeah. But he is just continuing to troll the fuck out of simple people like you.

... Perhaps he is trolling you?

[cale]

I just voted for the leadership election for the Conservative Party of Canada, it has and always will be done by mail. The fear of voting by mail is stupid, the idea that forcing people to show some form of residency is racist is also stupid.

Sort yourselves out.

[phillipj]

I just voted for the leadership election for the Conservative Party of Canada, it has and always will be done by mail. The fear of voting by mail is stupid, the idea that forcing people to show some form of residency is racist is also stupid.

Sort yourselves out.

I think many people aren't aware other Countries hold elections and pull off their vote far more fairly and efficiently in many parts of the world. America is kinda pathetic when it comes to voting and democracy. And that doesn't make me a hater, it's more about being a realist -- because only then we can than drill down on all the problems and figure out ways to get better.