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  • Powling
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    • Jan 2015
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    #526
    Did someone say protesting?

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    • gwb72tii
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      • Nov 2005
      • 3864

      #527
      This has been said before, but how ironic is it that Antifa uses facist methods to combat facism. Thuggery and violence to silence those with opposing views.
      “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
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      • decay
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2003
        • 5637

        #528
        Originally posted by gwb72tii
        This has been said before, but how ironic is it that Antifa uses facist methods to combat facism. Thuggery and violence to silence those with opposing views.
        and it's still bullshit. you can be ready to fight without looking for one.
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        • decay
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2003
          • 5637

          #529
          Originally posted by gwb72tii
          This has been said before, but how ironic is it that Antifa uses facist methods to combat facism. Thuggery and violence to silence those with opposing views.
          and it's still bullshit. you can be ready to fight without looking for one.
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          • Ryan...
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            • Feb 2010
            • 2448

            #530
            Originally posted by decay
            and it's still bullshit. you can be ready to fight without looking for one.
            Ok..... Doesn't change the fact that you and your homies still show up to these gatherings, masks and "riot" gear on, and use those very means to attempt to silence those with opposing views.

            That's literally undeniable. In this very thread you've defended your "tactics" based on the fact that your grandpa would be proud that you're fighting Nazis or some shit.
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            • Ryan...
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              • Feb 2010
              • 2448

              #531
              August 5th, 2018. More Antifa show up to a peaceful protest and start smashing windows of a Marine recruiting building, breaking car windows, and attacking others.

              I'm actually embarrassed for anyone that is associated with these clowns, let alone defends their actions in 2018.

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              • Ryan...
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                • Feb 2010
                • 2448

                #532
                Decay, I found a new avatar for you

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                • decay
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5637

                  #533
                  Originally posted by Ryan...
                  Ok..... Doesn't change the fact that you and your homies still show up to these gatherings, masks and "riot" gear on, and use those very means to attempt to silence those with opposing views.

                  That's literally undeniable. In this very thread you've defended your "tactics" based on the fact that your grandpa would be proud that you're fighting Nazis or some shit.
                  use quotes if you want, but my riot gear is better than what my cop ex-gf got issued by OPD. that's out of her mouth, not mine. probably better than yours too :P

                  and like local police, i note that you've got nothing to say about the alt-right coming in from out of town with bats and shields.
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                  • Ryan...
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2448

                    #534
                    Originally posted by decay
                    use quotes if you want, but my riot gear is better than what my cop ex-gf got issued by OPD. that's out of her mouth, not mine. probably better than yours too :P

                    and like local police, i note that you've got nothing to say about the alt-right coming in from out of town with bats and shields.
                    It's more the fact that anyone wears it to a rally in the first place, especially if they mean to make a difference against fascists without becoming those they're protesting, that I find ridiculous.
                    And most of my personal guns, training gear, and basically anything else is better than what I have at work :/

                    If the city has an ordinance against them carrying weapons they should be cited/arrested as well. I've said that time and time again... I wonder why, though, nobody heard about the far right Nazis showing up with weapons until Antifa came around and dragged them into the national spotlight by fighting with them at their obscure rallies. Antifa shows up, starts attacking people they don't agree with, and now people are fighting with bats and rocks in the streets.
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                    • decay
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 5637

                      #535
                      it's inaccurate to frame the situation as "anti-fascist protesters are always the aggressor".

                      you espouse the ideals of law enforcement i'd like to hear from police, but unfortunately, even-handedness is not happening.

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                      • Ryan...
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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 2448

                        #536
                        Originally posted by decay
                        it's inaccurate to frame the situation as "anti-fascist protesters are always the aggressor".

                        you espouse the ideals of law enforcement i'd like to hear from police, but unfortunately, even-handedness is not happening.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tified-twitter
                        No doubt they're the aggressor 100% of the time, but I'd be very, very surprised to hear that they aren't the aggressor 90% or more of the time.

                        Why is it that nobody had issues with Nazi gatherings before Antifa came about? It's because they stood and saluted statues and shit and didn't physically hurt or damage anything. It's not a bunch of rednecks on the far right destroying trash cans and windows.

                        If one group is peaceful, and another shows up and starts shit, the ones that showed up and started shit should be arrested.
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                        • lambo
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 10953

                          #537


                          big yikes

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                          • Ryan...
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2448

                            #538
                            Originally posted by lambo
                            They really shut that Nazi up! Fuck Yeah #Brother


                            Oh..wait...
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                            • decay
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 5637

                              #539
                              Originally posted by Ryan...
                              No doubt they're the aggressor 100% of the time, but I'd be very, very surprised to hear that they aren't the aggressor 90% or more of the time.
                              count yourself surprised, then. you want to know what anti-fascism really looks like? this is some good on-the-ground coverage, and i was actually a bit surprised and happy to see the vice reporter make the mouthpiece-dude justify our stance. (i'm aware that they're a somewhat left-biased source, but take a look; i think they did a decent job of giving both sides their fair say.)

                              take note of which group is wearing the most masks, body armor, and helmets. i didn't take any of my gear with me to the last counter-protest in oakland; it hasn't come out of its box since i went to Standing Rock.



                              Why is it that nobody had issues with Nazi gatherings before Antifa came about?
                              uhm, you remember that whole thing where the ACLU threw themselves under the bus by protecting the free speech rights of nazis in chicago in the 80's? it was kind of a nationwide kerfluffle.

                              If one group is peaceful, and another shows up and starts shit, the ones that showed up and started shit should be arrested.
                              any group that advocates racial cleansing is inherently not peaceful.
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                              • Ryan...
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                                • Feb 2010
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                                #540
                                Originally posted by decay
                                count yourself surprised, then. you want to know what anti-fascism really looks like? this is some good on-the-ground coverage, and i was actually a bit surprised and happy to see the vice reporter make the mouthpiece-dude justify our stance. (i'm aware that they're a somewhat left-biased source, but take a look; i think they did a decent job of giving both sides their fair say.)

                                take note of which group is wearing the most masks, body armor, and helmets. i didn't take any of my gear with me to the last counter-protest in oakland; it hasn't come out of its box since i went to Standing Rock.





                                uhm, you remember that whole thing where the ACLU threw themselves under the bus by protecting the free speech rights of nazis in chicago in the 80's? it was kind of a nationwide kerfluffle.



                                any group that advocates racial cleansing is inherently not peaceful.
                                If you can find another link I'd be glad to look, or tell me what to look for, because I'm not going to give a trash site like Vice clicks for any reason.

                                That was before my time on Earth, and that was a good thing for them to do. Protecting Free Speech is important. I should clarify, in modern times nobody gives a shit about far right idiots standing around in parks saluting statues. They weren't in the news. They weren't destroying stuff. If people didn't like them, they didn't participate in their stupid rallies. Now it's become a national pastime to hear about Antifa and these idiots fighting in the streets, while Antifa busts windows in the background or throws rocks at cops.

                                They may advocate racial cleansing, but they aren't doing shit. That's the issue, they're literally accomplishing nothing, and they're hurting nobody. Ignore them, and they will eventually die out or fade back even further into obscurity. Until they've got actionable movement on their wishes they've done nothing illegal, and should be able to speak about it.
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