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Originally posted by decay View Postyes. without community outrage, it would have been deprioritized and gone cold-case.
what i was getting at with the dating a cop angle was addressing your assertion that i don't know anything about them or what they have to deal with. do you have enough space in your head to remember *the last thing you just said*?
2) Yes, I remember exactly what I said. I just couldn't believe that you, having dated a cop and allegedly listened them talk, STILL thinks that mobilizing a bunch of people to shout at the sky is what solved a murder. Thank God for your divine presence, I'm sure that helped more than a bunch of officers and detectives pounding pavement and actually doing something to help solve the case.
I wish you guys could mobilize everywhere and help us catch all these bank robbers and carjackers here!2007 Range Rover Sport S/C
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Originally posted by Ryan... View Post1) That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Literally no law enforcement agency is swayed to perform a certain way for fear of retribution from protesters in a murder case. As everyone already knows, Antifa members have this excruciatingly bloated sense of self importance that you've displayed with this absolutely comical statement.
and your memory does fucking suck, because i've said twice now that antifa was less than 10% of the presence. the community did this, i was just a participant.past:
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Originally posted by decay View Postyou don't know oakland PD.
and your memory does fucking suck, because i've said twice now that antifa was less than 10% of the presence. the community did this, i was just a participant.
No? Then I have pretty good idea just how it is because I live it in a 6-3 rotation from 11p-7a.
Yes, less than 10%, I read that. I'm saying anyone who thinks any amount of protesting is what solved this case, or pushed the police to solve it as quickly as they did, is an idiot.2007 Range Rover Sport S/C
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Originally posted by decay View Postdo you know how many murders happen in the bay area and *don't* wind up in the NY Times?
yeah, those are the ones the cops don't bother going after.
pretty simple...
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i've been to wisconsin. madison would be considered a small city in CA. you might be surprised that policing becomes more difficult at big-city scale. to the point where the community has to call to action to make sure problems get addressed.
yeah, good job on bart PD for utilizing their resources to get the guy. i got my ass off the couch because some fucking nazis showed up to counter-protest a vigil for a murdered high-school girl and i'm not fucking okay with that, and i really don't give a shit if you take issue with it.past:
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Originally posted by decay View Posti've been to wisconsin. madison would be considered a small city in CA. you might be surprised that policing becomes more difficult at big-city scale. to the point where the community has to call to action to make sure problems get addressed.
yeah, good job on bart PD for utilizing their resources to get the guy. i got my ass off the couch because some fucking nazis showed up to counter-protest a vigil for a murdered high-school girl and i'm not fucking okay with that, and i really don't give a shit if you take issue with it.
Counter protesting Nazis protesting a vigil = OK.
Claiming that protesting helped the police in any way solving that murder = False, and not OK.2007 Range Rover Sport S/C
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Originally posted by Ryan... View PostPolicing across America, from small to medium to large PD's have the same basic issues, and that isn't going to change any time soon in the current climate. I've also been around Milwaukee PD and MPD officers, Chicago PD and their officers. They have it worse, no doubt, but the root issues are exactly the same. No reason Oakland would be any different.
Counter protesting Nazis protesting a vigil = OK.
Claiming that protesting helped the police in any way solving that murder = False, and not OK.past:
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Originally posted by decay View Posti'm not saying we helped (though there were people hunting the asshole independently of police action). i'm saying they were less likely to catch the guy so quickly (if at all) without a demonstration of public outrage to prod them into action.2007 Range Rover Sport S/C
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Originally posted by Ryan... View PostAnd I'm saying with as much certainty as one can have in life, that you are wrong. If it makes you feel better to believe that in your heart of hearts, so be it.past:
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Originally posted by decay View Postif you believe that the police are absolutely the only means of justice available, i'd like to point you at the nearest history book.
What justice do you believe you and any other protesters provided in this, or any other murder case? Or any criminal case for that matter. I'm talking real, tangible justice like fines, forfeitures, or jail time. Doxxing a Nazi and putting his address on FB isn't exactly justice, but you can count those if you must. Once you've compiled that list, compare it to even your most understaffed or under funded police departments in any state and you'll see that the PD is very heavily in the winning column.
Even Flint PD, clearing less than 20 felony cases a month due to lack of staff, with their average of 50+ calls pending every hour of day, does more good in one week than every single member of Antifa ever has when it comes to serving communities and bringing resolution and justice to victims and their families.2007 Range Rover Sport S/C
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why do you think organizations like the black panthers and antifa came about?
sometimes the police can't do their jobs. sometimes they just don't. sometimes they are the hostile actors.past:
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Your stories don't match local news reports.
It was "rumored" a white supremacy group was going to show up at "a bar," hence the protest, which was later joined by the memorial march that started at the station the evening of the murder.
Your protest did jack shit.
An anonymous caller called the police that they had seen getting on a train, and quickly arrested him.
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Originally posted by decay View Postwhy do you think organizations like the black panthers and antifa came about?
sometimes the police can't do their jobs. sometimes they just don't. sometimes they are the hostile actors.
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Originally posted by z31maniac View PostYour protest did jack shit.past:
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