E31s are so classy.

[mbonder]

I would love to have a dinan twin turbo 850csi

I also wish for over 100k...

[QUKBMER]

Do you also mean that the M20 is BMW's worst engine? I am asking as the V12 is basically two M20s mated together.

But now, if they mated two M50s, that would be even better. The V12 is a good match for the heavy two-tons 850. You need train-like torque to move a train-like heavy car.

If I remember, only the rare 850CSi (basically an ///M8) had a 6 speed manual tranny, plus more power, plus beter aerodynamic. The slushbox of all the ther models is the only put-off... Yurk.

Lee

No ...... This engine is all aluminum. Dont compare it to a m20 iron block/aluminum head engine,two totally different worlds my friend.

[nrubenstein]

Do you also mean that the M20 is BMW's worst engine? I am asking as the V12 is basically two M20s mated together.

But now, if they mated two M50s, that would be even better. The V12 is a good match for the heavy two-tons 850. You need train-like torque to move a train-like heavy car.

If I remember, only the rare 850CSi (basically an ///M8) had a 6 speed manual tranny, plus more power, plus beter aerodynamic. The slushbox of all the ther models is the only put-off... Yurk.

Lee

The design was somewhat M20 based. I don't think the issue with the 8 is the engine itself, though. It's better to say that it had the worst, most half assed electrical system that I can every recall BMW putting together.

I mean, really. Three ECUs? They had to throw in two I6 computers and then toss another on top to keep them working together? Talk about stupid. Not to mention all the parts that are bulletproof in other cars but fail in the 8 regularly. (I used to hear a lot of talk about ABS pumps...)

[Supadave]

so what engine would you swap in? ( and keep it real, something that could be done with lets say.. an e30 budget.

[bataangpinoy]

i can get my mitts on the 5.3 vortech gm motor for 200 bucks. i would probably supercharge it and drop it in (wouldnt be easy by any means)

if i had more$$ than that, maybe even an LS3.

[Supadave]

s62 http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...ge=2&t=1441221
might be over budget lol

[Joe G]

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[Kershaw]

The design was somewhat M20 based. I don't think the issue with the 8 is the engine itself, though. It's better to say that it had the worst, most half assed electrical system that I can every recall BMW putting together.

yep. my brother works in a bmw speciality shop. (einstein's bmw) and they had an 850csi in the shop for about 2 years. progress was slow to fix it, because it was so expensive and the owner kept running out of money. the electrical system is complete garbage.

they started failing A MONTH after they went for sale.

i LOVE the way they looked. toyed with buying one before i got my rx8. but... the weight and the shitty electrical system steered me clear. electrical gremlins are the LAST thing i want to chase down.

[Raxe]

Do you also mean that the M20 is BMW's worst engine? I am asking as the V12 is basically two M20s mated together.

But now, if they mated two M50s, that would be even better. The V12 is a good match for the heavy two-tons 850. You need train-like torque to move a train-like heavy car.

If I remember, only the rare 850CSi (basically an ///M8) had a 6 speed manual tranny, plus more power, plus beter aerodynamic. The slushbox of all the ther models is the only put-off... Yurk.

Lee

I've driven two E31's with 6 speed manuals, one was a black 850i and I think the other was a Japanese imported 840i iirc. Most are definitely autotragics though.

[NuthinFancy]

My buddy has a 850i auto but I still think its really sick. I drove it a few times and u can def feel the weight of the car while driving it but once it gets goin its so fast any way he's selling it it now im not sure for how much but im sure he's gonna let it go for cheap

[VasFinest]

DO WANT

[Supadave]

the great 8's, the forgotten BMW

[Supadave]

wide body e31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1T3Qk2LGqE

[Supadave]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS2g_Byy41k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rya7s6yTkM&feature=more_related

[craz azn]

DO WANT

Looks like it has Vaders? I wonder what they did for a solution to the seatbelts (regular E31s have them built into the seat)...