Save the Wheels Photographers

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These are real TR Motorsport C1's




Seriously though, if people didnt buy reps chances are they cant afford real wheel and this is there only way to make their car look the way that they want it. Granted im sure there are some REAL cheap and dangerous wheel companies out there, but my drift rat will be running XXR's for next season, theyre cheap, theyre not dangerous, and they work. Hit any wheel hard enough, and its gonna break...i honestly feel (to an extent) a wheel that breaks a bit easier is sometimes warranted (before you go flaming, hear me out) in the drift scene accidents happen, wheels hit walls, curbs, other cars...whatever it may be, id rather have my cheap xxr break cause i bashed it on an object then the wheel survive and my suspension now take the brunt of the impact. I love works, but sure as HELL not spending 2500-3k to have them get destroyed, ill run my tires till they pop, rims need to be expendable. Just my .02

Carry on.

[spike68]

I can understand your point of view. You make an extremely valid point. Better than what most people have given me. If that were me, id stick with OEM wheels in the case. There are tons of cheam OEM wheels that you can bash the shit out of. My issue with fake or poor quality wheels is where fake wheels break, the real wheels bend. Think of how much damage to a car that could save if a wheel bent as opposed to breaking or cracking. Im not saying that because i don't think you pose an invaid point, but its just another way to go about it.

[lambo]

I understand arguments for and against "fake" wheels. I'd never seriously call someone out for "fake" wheels. But, I also don't see myself purchasing anything but "real" wheels... except I think I might pick up some Rota Grid-V's this summer for temp wheels...

[Mr_Tripp]

Idk I am on the fence about this one, real wheels are nice and all however I have 2 reasons that I have/would buy fake wheels 1) For me I just drive my car, sometimes fast sometimes slow, I don't drift or do crazy maneuvers so I am not worried about cracks or bends also my car is currently parked outside all the time so I don't wanna have to sweat thinking about someone coming to steal my $1k+ wheels. 2) Sometimes a knockoff comes in sizes that the big company doesn't make, such a str wheels they are a good example they make 18x9" style 5's and 17x9" equip 03's which bbs nor work ever produced and there is a company out there that makes vossen wheels in sizes smaller that a 20" which is nice and they are a fraction of the price.
P.S. some people DON'T even know the differences.


IN conclusion real wheels are nice however reps are cheeper and come in various sizes and bolt patterns.

[spike68]

Your conclusion is exactly why this subject is such a huge debate.

I will point out. The only reason why rep companies are so successful is because they offer their wheels that fit as many cars as they possibly can. This debate is more of a conflict over quantity vs. quality. Even though Save the Wheels and I stand on the quality side, I honestly think it's something that will continue going on and on. A debate that will never end. Like I said, we're not here to shame (at least I'm not), we're here to make sure people understand the pros and cons. We would absolutely rather have everyone buy quality, but you cant convince everyone.

Personally, I bought real wheels because of the meaning behind it. Not only are the Borbets an attractive design, but knowing the fact that I waited and worked my ass off to get them is what brings the respect. I didnt want to cut corners with my build. It's things like that I love to see in other people's builds as well.

[Hooffenstein HD]

There is a purpose to genuine wheels but people that buy "real" wheels and stretch undersized tyres on with air bag suspension completely missed the point.

[lambo]

There is a purpose to genuine wheels but people that buy "real" wheels and stretch undersized tyres on with air bag suspension completely missed the point.

I disagree. BBS RS's and the likes were never strictly a racing/ultra-performance wheel. Why does everyone have to build their cars to be super-handling-speed-machines?

[Ray Smoodiver]

Fake splits can f*ck off.

[CrusherCurtis]

Please make a reasonable argument why we should deprive companies like BBS and Borbet of the money they deserve for their wheel designs.

I don't think they all deserve the kinda money they ask ie HRE vintage series.

[Mr_Tripp]

I don't think they all deserve the kinda money they ask ie HRE vintage series.

Oh yeah, thats another thing I forgot some Real wheels are discontinued such as the hex cap hre 501's and I just can't justify spending 2-3 times the cost of the entire car on "real" wheels, for what, just to say "yea those are real"

[blasphemy101]

...My issue with fake or poor quality wheels is where fake wheels break, the real wheels bend...

Whether it bends or cracks, if it doesn't hold air, it's broken.

...Think of how much damage to a car that could save if a wheel bent as opposed to breaking or cracking...

I'm not sure I understand your argument. It's not like wheels blow apart like a hand grenade when they crack.

Of course, my comments are based on the levels of abuse most wheels experience. I wouldn't drift on BBS LMs, and I wouldn't endurance race on Rota Sub-zeroes.

[KIRIEIW]

Genuine BBS 15' Basketweaves aka Euroweaves
Really tired of them cause they don't stick out to normal people


E30 alpine white 325 by kirieiw, on Flickr

[lambo]

heh

[spike68]

heh

Believe it not, but we pitched that idea to memoryfab ;) We're trying to get Brada Wheels in ATL to do the same.

[spike68]

Whether it bends or cracks, if it doesn't hold air, it's broken.



I'm not sure I understand your argument. It's not like wheels blow apart like a hand grenade when they crack.

Of course, my comments are based on the levels of abuse most wheels experience. I wouldn't drift on BBS LMs, and I wouldn't endurance race on Rota Sub-zeroes.

You make a point. Either way, it's broken. But I believe there is a point to where a lower quality wheel would crack to a much larger extent compared to a high quality wheel bending. the damage would be less extensive. There is also a point to where a lower quality wheel will become non-functional and a higher quality wheel will remain functional.

Most replica wheel companies create monoblock wheels. Its most cost effective and its easier to gravity cast the entire wheel. If this wheel cracks, its basically not worth fixing. Even if you tried to fix it, the heat from welding the crack back up may alter the properties of the metal causing to be even more unsafe. At least with higher quality wheels, which in some cases are 3 piece, you have a high chance of just replacing just the lips or barrels. And in the case of something like a forged or pressure cast monoblock wheel, it's safe (to an extent) to get the wheel straightened or, in the case of cracking, welded back up without altering the metal to an unsafe condition.