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  • !kid
    E30 Fanatic
    • Mar 2009
    • 1362

    #16
    i would question the quality of the metel
    :borg:

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    • bykerboy
      Advanced Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 152

      #17
      Originally posted by Dave
      ERW tubing - that is a no-no with all road racing groups.
      For $200 more they will use DOM tubing.

      I was looking at this as an option for my car as well but would like to hear from someone who has actually purchased a kit.

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      • JGood
        R3V OG
        • Jan 2004
        • 7959

        #18
        Even if it installs nice and everything is a perfect fit, it's still junk unless you want a drag racing cage. I would run no cage before using that thing on the track. I've heard too many horror stories of bending unsupported bars into the cockpit in an impact, doing more harm then good. It has nothing to do with the fitment and price, and everything to do with the fact that structurally, it's as strong as a pencil. You might as well wrap yourself in barbed wire and roll down a hill.

        Not to mention, what classes actually allow a 10 point cage like this? And out of those, which ones don't require foot protection, a main diagonal, etc...

        And if you aren't racing, why are you getting a cage for your e30?



        edit: Where the hell do they get 10 points? I see 8...
        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
        e30 restoration and V8 swap
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        • kishg
          R3VLimited
          • Sep 2006
          • 2624

          #19
          Originally posted by JGood

          And if you aren't racing, why are you getting a cage for your e30?
          for the fuh raze look as they cruise the local mall parking lots.. what else

          that cage looks seriously dangerous, i would not install that if they paid me..
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          • E30Idea
            R3VLimited
            • Mar 2007
            • 2196

            #20
            Originally posted by BTP325ic
            were did you get your materials from for that price?

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            • asubimmer
              R3V OG
              • Jul 2004
              • 6482

              #21
              Originally posted by JGood
              Even if it installs nice and everything is a perfect fit, it's still junk unless you want a drag racing cage. I would run no cage before using that thing on the track. I've heard too many horror stories of bending unsupported bars into the cockpit in an impact, doing more harm then good. It has nothing to do with the fitment and price, and everything to do with the fact that structurally, it's as strong as a pencil. You might as well wrap yourself in barbed wire and roll down a hill.

              Not to mention, what classes actually allow a 10 point cage like this? And out of those, which ones don't require foot protection, a main diagonal, etc...

              And if you aren't racing, why are you getting a cage for your e30?



              edit: Where the hell do they get 10 points? I see 8...
              I really doubt that is an actual pick of the E30 cage. Who knows what the design of the e30 one really looks like. They say that they make anything...
              ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #22
                Originally posted by asubimmer
                I really doubt that is an actual pick of the E30 cage. Who knows what the design of the e30 one really looks like. They say that they make anything...
                If you go to there site, they have pictures of their cages. They are a drag racing cage company. They seem to be just like Autopower, generic designs with specific dimensions for each car. So all of their cages will likely look the same, just made to fit each car.

                It could very well be a good drag cage, I know nothing about the design of them.
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                e30 restoration and V8 swap
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                • asubimmer
                  R3V OG
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 6482

                  #23
                  Originally posted by JGood
                  If you go to there site, they have pictures of their cages. They are a drag racing cage company. They seem to be just like Autopower, generic designs with specific dimensions for each car. So all of their cages will likely look the same, just made to fit each car.

                  It could very well be a good drag cage, I know nothing about the design of them.
                  fair enough, I didn't go to their site. Just looked at the posted link.
                  ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                  • ikkitousen
                    Grease Monkey
                    • May 2009
                    • 386

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JGood
                    I'm no expert in cage design, but that thing doesn't have any of the qualities of a good road racing cage. It doesn't have a dash bar, no foot protection, a single angled door bar (wtf?), no diagonal on the main hoop, no rear diagonal, etc... And there's two relatively useless bars that add 2 points near the main hoop, I assume in place of the main hoop diagonal?

                    I guess it might be OK for drag racing?

                    Why do you want a 10 point cage anyway?
                    its a weld-yer-own so why would you place those last two bars there anyway? I kinda see this as a lego type cage. You get all the parts but its up to you how you put them together. Would be better off using them in conjunction with a few more lengths to make it what you want. This kit would just get all the bends a majority of the pipe measurements and cut and outta the way. Think of it as good starting point for someone that is NOT a complete fabricating god like most r3v'rs are.

                    Originally posted by Dave
                    ERW tubing - that is a no-no with all road racing groups.
                    They make it in a DOM as well. This $299 price is for the ERW.

                    Honestly I may give this a shot in a month or so. I have an "extra" rolling chassis now that I can use for what ever. If it turns out to be kinda whack and not spec e30 legal then maybe it will turn out as an all show-no go kinda setup, or for regular HPDE track days. Who knows.

                    edit: Maybe I can be the guinna pig and talk them into donating one so I can do a documented build log and maybe get a groupbuy or something going... would be nice!

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                    Last edited by ikkitousen; 06-26-2009, 08:33 PM.

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                    • Rodoni
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1838

                      #25
                      someone paypal me 299$ and ill buy it and try it out ;)

                      on a more serious note, those look pretty legit for the price.
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                      • ikkitousen
                        Grease Monkey
                        • May 2009
                        • 386

                        #26
                        So I have been talking with Josh over at BDR about getting a cage setup that is SCCA/NASA legal and everything looks good so far.
                        If anyone has thier measurements from their builds I would like to compare them to what I have done in my car to get something finalized before I send it off too him. Thing is I still have my sunroof cassette cuz I was uninclined to take it out just yet so I will be building my cage with that still in there. But I need measurements for the main hoop with the cassette removed and weather or not it changes/ed the side hoop lengths at all as well.

                        Can you guys help me out? TIA!

                        P.S. Also we will be doing this cage in a straight cross door beam config rather then having to cut the driver side door out. Trying to keep this "Kit" as a simple weld-in cage.

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                        • Luis325
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 3847

                          #27
                          Im getting the 8 point rollbar pretty soon so i will post pics and a review in the next month. Working out shipping details with Josh.

                          Still not shure wether to go with a full cage or the roll bar.
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                          • kishg
                            R3VLimited
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 2624

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Luis325

                            Still not shure wether to go with a full cage or the roll bar.
                            if your going to street drive it, full cage might not be such a good idea.
                            '12 F30 328i Sport Line
                            '91 SpecE30 #523
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                            • etxxz
                              R3VLimited
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 2085

                              #29
                              remember to check your what your club requires.. iirc IKKI, a diagonal bar on your rear brace is req. i'm interested, my problem is i can't weld something like this myself (i've never done it) and if gonna go to a welder i might as well take the car to someone that can do the cage tubing as well..
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                              • newman
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1159

                                #30
                                If you can weld these aren't a bad deal.

                                You definitely should use DOM tubing, preferably high alloy, but you need to anneal your welds and they should be tig welds...

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