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    #31
    When driving a car with a really low steering ratio, like most pro cars and all formula cars, keeping your hands at 9/3 or 10/2 works. You'll not wind up with your arms crossed because of the low ratio. On a street car, with the higher steering ratio, you need to shuffle steer so that you maintain leverage on the steering wheel. If you let your arms cross and need to counter steer for a skid you have almost no leverage on the wheel.
    Last edited by jlevie; 08-24-2010, 11:56 AM.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      #32
      So? (not directed at you Jim)

      I don't think you can not shuffle steer using a street based steering rack. I think you would need a rack that has 2 turns lock to lock or less to nit gave to shuffle steer. I also don't think that it as black and white of an issue that to never shuffle steer people make it out to be.

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        #33
        Originally posted by gobuffs View Post
        So? (not directed at you Jim)

        I don't think you can not shuffle steer using a street based steering rack. I think you would need a rack that has 2 turns lock to lock or less to nit gave to shuffle steer. I also don't think that it as black and white of an issue that to never shuffle steer people make it out to be.
        like Isaid before it really depends on the car. In a SM there is nowhere that I need to shuffle, im my E30 with no power steering I need to shuffle just for mechanical advantage. Also depends on the size of the steering wheel in your car. So no, there is no clear cut answer as to if you should shuffle steer or not. It is not proper, but is often necessary!
        Brian Jacobs

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          #34
          That trackpedia stite is great, thx.
          I have an Mtech2 steering wheel and 9-3 feels natural, and it had those thumb rests.
          I think I may delete PS in the future.
          The track I'm running doesn't really have any sharp corners so 9-3 is fine pretty much the whole time plus the pull technique. I have found myself pushing in a couple turns, have to get rid of that, and a few other daily drive habits.

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            #35
            trackpedia is awesome.. lots of good stuff there. as i mentioned before, look into getting some instruction. also, get video setup. very useful tool imo.
            '12 F30 328i Sport Line
            '91 SpecE30 #523
            '00 Ford F-350 Dually Tow Vehicle

            BMWCCA #360858 NASA #
            128290

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              #36
              remember trackpedie is based off of "opinions" from people that may or may not know anything. The last time I saw trackpedia for Sebring it was so far off that is was not even funny. I have gotten some usefull information off of there in the past, but It is much like this websight, there are some very knowledgeable people, and then.....
              Brian Jacobs

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                #37
                Originally posted by briansjacobs View Post
                remember trackpedie is based off of "opinions" from people that may or may not know anything. The last time I saw trackpedia for Sebring it was so far off that is was not even funny. I have gotten some usefull information off of there in the past, but It is much like this websight, there are some very knowledgeable people, and then.....

                well it is the internet.. standard disclaimers should apply. having said that, i personally know the guys that started it they are racers and quite a few pros/coaches like skeen and peter krause frequent it. so as far as internet forums go, the ratio of yahoos is fairly low there. ymmv obviously.
                '12 F30 328i Sport Line
                '91 SpecE30 #523
                '00 Ford F-350 Dually Tow Vehicle

                BMWCCA #360858 NASA #
                128290

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by kishg View Post
                  look into getting some instruction
                  Totally agree, but the season is ending, there's two or three TDs left this year so I'm just going to have fun and make a full plan for next year, join track ed, take it more seriously and maybe even do a couple hillclimb events.

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                    #39
                    Welp, had a blast again today. Lot more confidence, let the butt fly out a couple times.
                    There were more drivers that have no respect for anyone else on track this time, so I just let them pass and get as far away from me as possible. I'd meet most of them going slow half a lap later because they probably killed the brakes. My brother and his gf were watching and saw an e36 spin out, like three clocks.
                    I have no doubt this is highly addictive and I'm sad the season's slowly ending.
                    Should have pics tomorrow.

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                      #40
                      The pics suck, but here they are





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                        #41
                        nice.. looks good.
                        '12 F30 328i Sport Line
                        '91 SpecE30 #523
                        '00 Ford F-350 Dually Tow Vehicle

                        BMWCCA #360858 NASA #
                        128290

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                          #42
                          Man looking @ the pics makes me think i need to take my car to the states...i need a big nice track... here they suck and theres only 2 and they are small....
                          I need to get up to Seibring or NJ....
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                            #43
                            Promised my brother's gf (who took the pics) that I'd take her out on the last TD in a couple weeks.
                            Any advice on screaming women in the car? :D

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                              #44
                              keep your pimp hand strong.
                              AWD > RWD

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